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Anyone else feel a sense of impending doom that we’ll have a Labour government tomorrow?

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Kandinsky Thu 04-Jul-24 07:38:24

I’d like to feel optimistic that things will improve I really would - I was pleased Blair got in in 97, but this feels different some how?
I’m kind of dreading the next - god knows how many years - under Labour.
Oh well.

Sidelined Thu 04-Jul-24 09:59:57

I'm going to vote soon and expect Labour will win. I'd like to think the future is bright but have we ever had the perfect government? Each one inherits the problems left by the previous lot and change isn't easy or instant. They do what they want to do, what they think is the best option and we have to get on with coping with the consequences. Left or right, the outcome for us everyday folk is just the same. Pay your taxes, do your best with what's available, live in hope.

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 10:04:54

MaizieD

Is Labour the favourite to beat Kemi, growstuff?.

(Yes, I know it's a very long shot)

Hmmm! Interesting question! Yes, that's what the tactical voting sites have been claiming, although the local LibDems have been denying it. The LDs were second in 2019. Locally, the LD party has collapsed. The former "core" of activists got older and haven't really been replaced. Local LibDem members weren't called on to canvas in the constituency, but were asked to concentrate on South Cambridgeshire, which they have a chance of winning. The only placards I've seen in this constituency have been Labour. I'm a bit cross that Labour and the LibDems couldn't come to some kind of agreement.

Kemi is very unpopular locally because she's never here and is seen as being more interested in herself and personal ambitions. She lied about moving here from South London, doesn't hold local surgeries and fobs off most requests for any help. She really has no idea about local issues. Nevertheless, it's a hard core Conservative area and I suspect she will win, but I think it will be with a considerably reduced majority. The Reform candidate was one who was forced to withdraw, so the right wing vote won't be split (as I'd hoped). She's so arrogant that she won't admit that people don't like her, but will blame the national situation.

Grantanow Thu 04-Jul-24 10:05:10

I don't want another 14 miserable years of Tory chaos - long NHS waiting lists, can't see a GP, no dentist, poor housing, and sleaze of course.

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 10:05:42

Sidelined

I'm going to vote soon and expect Labour will win. I'd like to think the future is bright but have we ever had the perfect government? Each one inherits the problems left by the previous lot and change isn't easy or instant. They do what they want to do, what they think is the best option and we have to get on with coping with the consequences. Left or right, the outcome for us everyday folk is just the same. Pay your taxes, do your best with what's available, live in hope.

I don't agree that the outcome is always the same.

maddyone Thu 04-Jul-24 10:05:45

I’m unsure why posters who live abroad will celebrating (or commiserating) after the election.
It doesn’t affect them since they have chosen to live abroad.

Daddima Thu 04-Jul-24 10:06:54

Boz

My husband, for the first time, is refusing to vote! I'm off on my own as women died for my vote.
Nothing will change - it rarely does.

Well, Boz, women died for our ‘right’ to vote, isn’t it up to us whether or not we exercise it?

We had an excellent SNP MP, who had a large majority, but now have a ‘knife edge’ situation between SNP and LibDems, only 149 votes in it. I fear that the SNP will have lost support because of the financial mess, and there is a real possibility that Alex Salmond’s Alba will pick up votes from independence minded voters.

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 10:07:10

Witzend

The other day I asked a young relative, a student doctor, who’s just finished her 3rd year, whether she was going to vote (for the first time).

No, because she hadn’t got around to registering.
I can’t help wondering how many students would say the same.

Yes, I wondered whether that had anything to do with the timing. University has finished, most students will have moved back home or be on holiday. I wouldn't mind betting that many of them aren't registered.

Nannytopsy Thu 04-Jul-24 10:08:03

Am I right about how short NHS waiting lists were at the end of the Blair government? And we had SureStart and Connexions. It wasn’t a bad place to be.

Nicenanny3 Thu 04-Jul-24 10:08:40

I think it's been an exciting election with Nigel Farage and the Reform Party. I obviously do not want a Labour government but I want the Conservatives out. I'm actually optimistic for the future and hope Reform will form the next government in 5 years time. Little acorns 🌳 Most Reform voters are upbeat and optimistic for the future because we believe in Reform unlike the Labour and Tory supporters.

Sago Thu 04-Jul-24 10:08:59

growstuff

Aveline

Memories are clearly short

I do remember the last Labour government. Nothing wrong with my memory.

Tony Blair got us into a totally unnecessary war!

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 10:10:02

Sago

growstuff

Aveline

Memories are clearly short

I do remember the last Labour government. Nothing wrong with my memory.

Tony Blair got us into a totally unnecessary war!

Yes, I remember that too - nothing wrong with my memory.

maddyone Thu 04-Jul-24 10:11:55

Grantanow

I don't want another 14 miserable years of Tory chaos - long NHS waiting lists, can't see a GP, no dentist, poor housing, and sleaze of course.

How soon do you think you’ll be able to get a GP appointment speedily?

henetha Thu 04-Jul-24 10:13:11

The main thing is to actually vote. I hope there will be a good turnout. I find it hard to understand why people don't bother.

nanna8 Thu 04-Jul-24 10:14:43

Should make it compulsory perhaps ? Won’t happen there,though.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 04-Jul-24 10:18:31

maddyone have you forgotten that Labour have all the Doctors, GPs, Nurses, Teachers etc., ready and waiting to start work on Monday.

(That if the Doctors are working and not striking of course)

Merion Thu 04-Jul-24 10:18:59

Nannytopsy

Am I right about how short NHS waiting lists were at the end of the Blair government? And we had SureStart and Connexions. It wasn’t a bad place to be.

A reminder of what Labour had achieved. Gordon Brown's 2009 speech to Conference. It's only a short clip anyway but the list of those achievements start from about a minute in with winter fuel Allowance, shorter waiting lists ... Sure Start, the Disability Discrimination Act, peace in Northern Ireland and many more.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfNyItl9J8w

Watch out for Alan Johnson's smiles.

BigMamma Thu 04-Jul-24 10:20:49

The voting has started so we are in the hands of the voters and whoever wins the election we cannot do a thing about it, so as far as I am concerned I am not going to spend any sleepless nights worrying about it.

I have got to the ripe old age of my mid 80's and had a fantastic life, my only wish is that the young of today can live a life as good as the one I have lived.

JaneJudge Thu 04-Jul-24 10:27:43

Lots of people are posting that meme about voting for the vulnerable on facebook but I can't help thinking whatever happens, we are all vulnerable. I haven;t seen much said about the vulnerable in debates, what will happen wrt social care etc

JaneJudge Thu 04-Jul-24 10:29:28

growstuff

Witzend

The other day I asked a young relative, a student doctor, who’s just finished her 3rd year, whether she was going to vote (for the first time).

No, because she hadn’t got around to registering.
I can’t help wondering how many students would say the same.

Yes, I wondered whether that had anything to do with the timing. University has finished, most students will have moved back home or be on holiday. I wouldn't mind betting that many of them aren't registered.

my son registered and they have not sent his voting card through

he got a First in Engineering btw smile

MaizieD Thu 04-Jul-24 10:29:54

Sago

growstuff

Aveline

Memories are clearly short

I do remember the last Labour government. Nothing wrong with my memory.

Tony Blair got us into a totally unnecessary war!

Which doesn't negate all the good things that the Labour government had done up until then.

Or did afterwards. Like saving the country from the effect of the Global financial Crisis.

It certainly doesn't justify the tories spending the last 14 years wrecking the country...

JenniferEccles Thu 04-Jul-24 10:32:13

A sense of impending doom at the thought of a large Labour majority? Most definitely yes.
I’m quite certain Starmer will show his true colours pretty quickly when it becomes apparent that we’ve got a Corbyn inspired government, but by then it will be too late.

All of us on here are old enough to have lived through changes of government over the years, some we’ve voted for, others we most definitely haven’t and we’ve lived to tell the tale.

I’m trying to be philosophical about the current situation, but probably not succeeding.

One thing I do know for sure is that Labour will come after everyone who is reasonably comfortably off, who has a nice home in a good area, as well of course as the very wealthy.

maddyone Thu 04-Jul-24 10:32:50

GrannyGravy I’ve been wondering throughout the run up to the election where all the doctors, teachers, and nurses are going to come from, given that it took my daughter twelve years to qualify as a GP, teachers take either three or four years to qualify, nurses the same, and even the most junior doctor (F1 and F2) takes five or six years at university, before they are able to start work as an F1 and a year later an F2. These people are not going to magically appear and be in our surgeries just waiting for the green light from a new government and then hey presto, we’ll all be able to get a GP appointment on the day it is needed.
I suspect we’ll poach some from abroad, which I’ve always thought immoral when their own countries need them so much. But it won’t supply the numbers quoted.

JudyBloom Thu 04-Jul-24 10:36:48

Entirely! I agree with Poppyred and Petra.

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 10:38:36

GrannyGravy13

maddyone have you forgotten that Labour have all the Doctors, GPs, Nurses, Teachers etc., ready and waiting to start work on Monday.

(That if the Doctors are working and not striking of course)

Where and when did Labour promise that? I think that's a tad hyperbolic!

growstuff Thu 04-Jul-24 10:40:12

The last thing the next government will be is "Corbyn-inspired". confused