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The winner will probably be a low poll turnout

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M0nica Thu 04-Jul-24 09:03:26

I live in a village of 600-800 houses. Most occupants will work within 15-20 miles, many within 5 miles.

The polling station is in the village hall, a couple of hundred yards from the primary school, with ample easily accessed parking

I went into vote at 8.45, when I would have expected to find lots of parents, just having dropped children at school (school starts at 8.45) and other people voting on their way to work.

There were 3 of us in the polling station when I went in. Polling Station staff far outnumbered us.

Mollygo Fri 05-Jul-24 09:52:30

Voting where we are was lower than 60%. Possibly because it’s always been Labour and people thought it wasn’t worthwhile.

maddyone Fri 05-Jul-24 09:44:01

Smileless2012

Only 60% M0nica that's pretty shocking isn't it.

Yes, it is shocking.

maddyone Fri 05-Jul-24 09:43:05

Voter turnout was 60%, despite all going on, lowest since 1885
So 40%, despite all going on, couldn’t be bothered to vote

Some couldn’t be bothered, others were expressing their disillusionment with the political situation.

MissAdventure Fri 05-Jul-24 09:29:30

Casdon

I wonder what’s going on in Basildon and East Thurrock, which is one of the undeclared seats? There are only 5 seats outstanding, with recounts and the Scottish Isles accounting for the others, but it says for this seat ‘Counting was paused at Basildon South and East Thurrock earlier this morning and will resume at 2pm for a full recount.’ Sounds like something dodgy has happened.

I'm sure Baildon held conservative,because it was one of the surprising things to me.

I just thought the man must be really good, and that's why they voted to keep him.

Smileless2012 Fri 05-Jul-24 09:27:38

I'm pretty sure it will include the postal vote as well Ziplok.

Ziplok Fri 05-Jul-24 09:24:57

Does that voter turn out of 60% include the postal votes as well?
If only 60% overall voted, that’s poor indeed, but if it’s not including postal voting, then it’s meaningless - voting % could be considerably higher than 60%.

pascal30 Fri 05-Jul-24 09:20:17

It's shocking but not really surprising... I think people have become quite apathetic and ground down with this last government.. Labour will have their work cut out to try to redress the dire situation we find ourselves faced with

Casdon Fri 05-Jul-24 09:18:52

I wonder what’s going on in Basildon and East Thurrock, which is one of the undeclared seats? There are only 5 seats outstanding, with recounts and the Scottish Isles accounting for the others, but it says for this seat ‘Counting was paused at Basildon South and East Thurrock earlier this morning and will resume at 2pm for a full recount.’ Sounds like something dodgy has happened.

Smileless2012 Fri 05-Jul-24 09:00:29

Only 60% M0nica that's pretty shocking isn't it.

Galaxy Fri 05-Jul-24 08:43:45

My brother is exactly the same. I have always thought of it as a form of extreme perfectionism but what you have described fits him better. He had a diagnosis undertaken privately recently.

M0nica Fri 05-Jul-24 08:40:25

I always feel that you are so highly organised Monica that you would have made a great master criminal.Is it too late for a career change?😃

Classic ADHD procrastination, I am so busy organising myself to make sure everything is in good order and I have no distractions, before I get stuck in to what I really should be doing, nothing ever gets done.

M0nica Fri 05-Jul-24 08:37:45

I was right. Voter turnout was 60%, lowest since 1885 www.firstpost.com/world/2024-uk-general-elections-results-live-july-4-conservatives-tories-labour-polls-rishi-sunak-keir-starmer-13789456.html

So 40%, despite all going on, couldn't be bothered to vote.

I wonder how many non-voters are in the 18-25 age group, and I wonder how many 16-18 year olds will vote when thy get the vote.

Calendargirl Fri 05-Jul-24 07:37:22

I was a poll clerk in a little village.

I can assure you the i/d was properly checked by me each time, even though I knew many of the voters. Every single person arrived with i/d, although one or two didn’t meet the criteria, i.e. not on the accepted list.

We were fairly brisk overall.

Not a low turnout where I was working.

Callistemon213 Fri 05-Jul-24 07:19:38

Doodledog

MaizieD

I actually agree with you about postal votes, Chestnut. I think they are wide open to fraud. Voter ID was an absolutely pointless imposition in comparison with the weakness of postal voting.

Also, for this particular election there have been so many problems with postal vote forms being sent out very late, and the unreliability of our once superb postal system, that I think there may be problems in some counts, especially where the result is very close.

I did a postal vote this year for the first time. I received the paper and was able to return it in good time, although obviously I don't know that it hasn't been tampered with or destroyed. I'm not worrying about that though, as the same could happen to votes cast in person. Maybe the system should be that we get a receipt, either by email or post.

I think that if they abolish postal voting they should have to abolish voter ID, too.

I don't think postal voting should be abolished.

It is vital for some people who are physically unable to get to a polling station and for many who may go overseas for more than just a short holiday, perhaps visiting family overseas.

I realise that it can be abused in some instances but don't think that is the norm.

More important is finding out why some eligible voters just can't be bothered to vote at all.

Callistemon213 Fri 05-Jul-24 07:15:26

Over 69% turnout here.

fancythat Fri 05-Jul-24 06:15:47

Turnout is likely to be about 60%. Lowest since 2001.

Primrose53 Thu 04-Jul-24 22:44:19

I voted about 3.30 and was the only person in there, then 3 people came in behind me. I did the address, name part and stood there with my ID in my hand. I asked who wanted to check it and the woman in front of me said “i do apologise, I should have asked you for it.

Son went about 4pm and was the only one there and likewise for husband who went at 8.30.

Merion Thu 04-Jul-24 21:07:29

Clacton

Merion Thu 04-Jul-24 21:07:06

Someone has drawn my attention to Reform "Contract".

Page 21 says:

Commence Reform of the Postal Voting
System. Postal voting has allowed electoral fraud. We will
stop postal voting except for the elderly, disabled or
those who can’t leave their homes.

Farage was strolling around Claction today ... having voted by post.

news.sky.com/video/general-election-nigel-farage-in-clacton-on-sea-on-polling-day-13163542

Doodledog Thu 04-Jul-24 20:01:42

MaizieD

I actually agree with you about postal votes, Chestnut. I think they are wide open to fraud. Voter ID was an absolutely pointless imposition in comparison with the weakness of postal voting.

Also, for this particular election there have been so many problems with postal vote forms being sent out very late, and the unreliability of our once superb postal system, that I think there may be problems in some counts, especially where the result is very close.

I did a postal vote this year for the first time. I received the paper and was able to return it in good time, although obviously I don't know that it hasn't been tampered with or destroyed. I'm not worrying about that though, as the same could happen to votes cast in person. Maybe the system should be that we get a receipt, either by email or post.

I think that if they abolish postal voting they should have to abolish voter ID, too.

HousePlantQueen Thu 04-Jul-24 19:37:31

When we voted mid morning it was busy, and a friend who was working at the polling station said it had been really busy all morning

Redrobin51 Thu 04-Jul-24 19:32:04

We went at 11am and there was just me and my husband the clerks said there had been barely anyone in and looked bored out of their minds. The church hall was also freezing so felt sorry for them. Many people around here are retired.

Tenko Thu 04-Jul-24 19:22:15

I voted at about 6pm and there was a steady stream of voters. Mostly of working age . My AC are voting after work . So I think it will get busier .

Whitewavemark2 Thu 04-Jul-24 19:17:13

Turnout is higher than expected.

There was a queue at our polling station. That was at 3pm ish.

M0nica Thu 04-Jul-24 19:14:51

Galaxy

If we are going for competitive earlinessgrin 8.45 would be late for working people, I leave the house at 7.30. There were 3 people voting when I went in, they were also running a raffle at the door which surprised me a little.

Nothing competitive, about 8.45, just stating the time I went. The school is very close and starts at 8.45, so as most drive past it after dropping off the children in time for an 8.45 school start, I thought more would drop in in their way past. In my day that was what I and many friends did. It took something off your mind while you were working.