Who should lead the Tories now?

I think Sunak should stay in place for the next six months, before the Conservatives decide who their next leader will be.

They need to take time to analyse where they went wrong and which direction they want to go in and who the electorate, who make the fina; decision over who is in power, are likely to support and then choose with care and thought.

Of course they will not do that. It is going to take at least two and may be three changes of leader to sort that out.

I honestly cant see who could stand and win and make a difference, and hold the party together, but I don't know the newer players. either way, it will be up to Conservative Party members - do they know any more?

They were in power with Johnson and I think it quite likely Trump will win another term.

Well doesnt that say something about tories when someone can suggest that a proven liar, cheat, maker of rules that he does not keep himself , arrogant thinking he is better than others should actually be given another chance to be seen as representative of this country. As a liar who would even attempt to make any agreements with him as he cannot keep his word and is not to be trusted. Yes go ahead make him the leader and that will make sure they never get back into power. Still he would get on with donald Trump as 2 of a kind wouldnt he?

Ooops sorry, I literally have zero idea about who should go onto to lead the Tories. I thought Sunak was a good chancellor and a weak leader, though his departing speech was excellent.

They seem to have a very small pool of people from whom to choose, it’ll probably be some like Pretti Patel!

Both our Southend East and Southend Westcliff West have elected Labour, men of colour, for the first time ever ever.

Although we have an extremely mixed demographic, from deprived boroughs to very middle class areas to older people, to young professionals to £1m+ properties, very very mixed.

I’m delighted at the result and hope our local MPs work hard for the community, fight our corner in parliament and make a difference.

We have Grammar schools too, four of them, two girls, two boys, and good faith schools and some very poor schools too, so plenty of room for improvement here.

Time will tell.

I was hoping this thread would be about how the Tories move forward and with whom.

I'm sorry it has become a sort of duplicate of the other one.

It wouldnt be a good idea to bring Johnson back but they would have been in a better position if they had stuck with him. The question isnt who we like or who is a good man/woman, its who should lead the Tories, and I assume the aim of that leadership would be to gain power.

You mean Murdoch? 😱

Magsymoo

What a good idea. Let’s bring back a disgraced former PM. A man who has lied and cheated in his personal and professional life for personal gain over and over again. A man who has contributed massively to a decline in standards in public life which has spilled out into ordinary life. Yes, that’s just what the country needs!

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BigMamma

Boris Johnson.

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Great sense of humour you have 😂😂😂

I dont think that's how things work anymore. The real organising is happening on social media, podcasts etc.

The answer will be who the Tory press think should be leader.

Galaxy

The Tories tend to choose a range of hopeless leaders after a defeat, if they had any sense it would be Badenoch.

I agree Galaxy, but most on here won’t.

Vintagewhine I so agree. As I have said on the other thread. They need to think about who will appeal to the broad electorate, not just party members, or just one small dead end of the electorate.

Farage's appeal is to a sector of the electorate that is going nowhere. Older, less well educated, living in the most seriously deprived marginal areas of the country with high unemployment and far from large urban centres and with very high votes for Brexit.

Just as the red wall od slightly less deprived cosntituencies lurched from to red to blue in 2019, and back in 2024, so these Blue constituncies have lurched from blue to purple now and will lurch back in 2030.

I live in a constituency that is younger than average, mainly highly educated scientists, IT people and other professionals. A slight rejigging of our constituency boundaries meant we went from Conservative not quite marginal, to large LibDem majority.

Local Labour people were shaken. What had been added to the constituency was a town, once 'the poorest in Oxfordshire' and solidly Labour, but in the last 10 years thousands of nice new houses have been built, Lots of 3/4/5 bedroomed detached houses, occupied by all the young highly educated technologist. It is now one of the richest towns in Oxfordshire

The Labour vote was down, Conservative vote nearly halved and Lib Dem vote went right up and won.

These constituencies aare the future of the country, centrist, European and concerned about global warming and the environment. Any new Conservative leader needs to be able to get these people on board - and a lurch to the right certainly won't do it.

keepingquiet

There is a similar thread to this about a poisoned chalice, but I'll give the same response.

They should listen to Robert Buckland's speech from election night.

He was outlining whythe Tories failed and what they should have done.

Unless they start caring about this country more than they care about themselves they will not get anywhere. Public service not private gain.

Yes, and first I think that they need to work out what they actually stand for.

Next it very much depends on who got voted in. Someone suggested that it was more left leaning which will make a difference to the eventual leader I would have thought.

However if it becomes a light Reform party, then I guess Farage will become a contestant.

*Tobias

Tobies Elwood was just on Breakfast saying that the Tories should decide the direction of the party before they decide who is best to lead.

The Tories tend to choose a range of hopeless leaders after a defeat, if they had any sense it would be Badenoch.

I certainly hope we do not get Hunt.
He did a great deal to causing the current troubles in the NHS when he was Health Minister and I don’t think he was a good Chancellor either. He’s arrogant and dismissive. He will do nothing for the Conservatives.
I was sorry he retained his seat.

Unless they start caring about this country more than they care about themselves they will not get anywhere. Public service not private gain

Agreed keepingquiet.

I think the next leader they choose will clearly illustrate the party’s ’direction of travel’. Will they swing even further to the right - trying to ‘out Reform, Reform’? Who knows

BigMamma

Boris Johnson.

Johnson is not an MP thank goodness, add to the list Braverman, Badenoch and Patel, it’s not what Gransnet wants its local party members, those that chose Truss.

There is a similar thread to this about a poisoned chalice, but I'll give the same response.

They should listen to Robert Buckland's speech from election night.

He was outlining whythe Tories failed and what they should have done.

Unless they start caring about this country more than they care about themselves they will not get anywhere. Public service not private gain.

Hopefully they won’t rush into it but depends if RS is willing to stay on until another leader is chosen.

I have heard Victoria Atkins mentioned, the former Health Secretary.

Not that many to choose from.

I think they would do well to steer away from all the well known names, Hunt, Cleverley, (maybe spelt that wrong), and go for someone different.