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Did anyone else spot this about Reform?

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NotSpaghetti Mon 08-Jul-24 21:03:46

www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/08/reform-uk-under-pressure-to-prove-all-its-candidates-were-real-people

Were they all real or were some just AI candidates?

NotSpaghetti Tue 09-Jul-24 16:29:44

Doodle and biglouis
He had unfortunately died 2 months before and they didn’t know so sacked him during the election for inactivity.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-68788850.amp

BevSec Tue 09-Jul-24 16:28:26

Doodledog, already they have scrapped Rwanda which was an effective deterrent, are planning to build on green belt land, “look” at pensions, and I suspect eventually drag us back into the maw of the EU. That is just for starters!

Doodledog Tue 09-Jul-24 16:22:00

biglouis

*Apparently they had someone standing in York who was dead*

Probably the result of only having a skeleton staff!

grin

Doodledog Tue 09-Jul-24 16:21:32

BevSec

Crossstitchfan, it was so refreshing to read your post, and I think he will be proved right about illegal immigration. I just hope he keeps illegal immigration a central issue with this dreadful Labour government.

What has the government done that's dreadful?😂

They've only been in power for four days.

DamaskRose Tue 09-Jul-24 16:20:58

biglouis

*Apparently they had someone standing in York who was dead*

Probably the result of only having a skeleton staff!

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Chestnut Tue 09-Jul-24 16:18:18

growstuff

NotSpaghetti

Well he says he's real anyway (on a phone call).

grin

I don't doubt he's real, but he doesn't look like the picture on his campaign literature.

I just posted the real picture and an article!

He looks exactly the same.

BevSec Tue 09-Jul-24 16:04:09

Crossstitchfan, it was so refreshing to read your post, and I think he will be proved right about illegal immigration. I just hope he keeps illegal immigration a central issue with this dreadful Labour government.

Callistemon213 Tue 09-Jul-24 15:59:43

biglouis

*Apparently they had someone standing in York who was dead*

Probably the result of only having a skeleton staff!

😂😂😂

Callistemon213 Tue 09-Jul-24 15:59:16

DamaskRose

You are absolutely right Callistemon about the Scottish Assembly vote in 1979. But I don’t think paddyann will be back to answer your question.

Thanks DamaskRose

I doubt that a couple of fraudulent votes (perhaps someone who'd died but who was still on the electoral roll and had a postal vote) would have made any difference.

However, AI is going to be difficult to deal with in the future, a far bigger problem faces us.

biglouis Tue 09-Jul-24 15:58:16

Apparently they had someone standing in York who was dead

Probably the result of only having a skeleton staff!

DamaskRose Tue 09-Jul-24 15:55:13

You are absolutely right Callistemon about the Scottish Assembly vote in 1979. But I don’t think paddyann will be back to answer your question.

varian Tue 09-Jul-24 15:54:24

You might think that after failing to be elected to parliament seven times and finally getting elected on his eighth attempt, that Farage would have had the good grace to respect the traditions of our parliament at least on the first occasion he was called to speak.

But no. Farage was allowed to follow other party leaders in congratulating Sir Lindsay Hoyle on his re-election as Speaker and took the opportunity to take a totally inappropriate swipe at the previous Speaker, John Bercow.

Disgusting behaviour.

growstuff Tue 09-Jul-24 15:53:42

NotSpaghetti

Well he says he's real anyway (on a phone call).

grin

I don't doubt he's real, but he doesn't look like the picture on his campaign literature.

Callistemon213 Tue 09-Jul-24 15:51:55

If only that had been introduced for the 2026 EU vote!
2016 sorry.

Typo or Freudian slip?

NotSpaghetti Tue 09-Jul-24 15:51:19

Well he says he's real anyway (on a phone call).

grin

Callistemon213 Tue 09-Jul-24 15:50:40

growstuff

The picture on the right is the real Mark Matlock, who was a Reform candidate. The picture on the left is the AI generated image, which appeared on the campaign literature.

I think I need one of those 😁

growstuff Tue 09-Jul-24 15:43:26

But it doesn't look much like the real Mark Matlock.

Chestnut Tue 09-Jul-24 15:41:56

This is the actual photo which simply had the wrong coloured tie.
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/reform-uk-ai-candidate-mark-matlock-b2576101.html

growstuff Tue 09-Jul-24 15:29:15

The picture on the right is the real Mark Matlock, who was a Reform candidate. The picture on the left is the AI generated image, which appeared on the campaign literature.

Callistemon213 Tue 09-Jul-24 15:20:40

Ps I can't find anything about dead voters.

However if Reform was using AI generated candidates, that is distinctly weird. Would anyone notice if they won but never turned up in Parliament?

Callistemon213 Tue 09-Jul-24 15:18:28

paddyann54

Wasn't just candidates who were fake/dead..on their leaflet here there were two old people one who died aged 102 4 years ago and the one who brought it to light an old lady who had an accident that was in the newspapers...of course people recognised her and knew she had died .
Of course they learned from the big boys ..abour did just this in the first referendum in Scotland in 1979...they used dead people as NO voters ,otherwise Yes would have won.
Before anyone calls me a LIAR again...check it out..its true! People on the voters roll who had recently died were deemed to be NO voters .That unionist politics for you.

My memory is failing me paddyann (I may have been busy with family matters, moving at that time too).
Was that referendum about independence or about a Scottish Assembly?

Wasn't there a minimum percentage requirement? Although Yes won, the majority was insufficient to reach the criteria?

If only that had been introduced for the 2026 EU vote!

spabbygirl Tue 09-Jul-24 14:56:36

Crossstitchfan

I was about to say the same thing! I wonder if it’s just ‘fashionable’ to dislike Farage. I sense a witch-hunt sometimes.
I saw him on ‘I’m a Celeb’ and have to admit that I really liked him. He was fair, considerate and charming. That can’t be said about many politicians I am familiar with.
What is up with people that they have to latch on to people and run them down all the time?

Boris is charming, that's partly what got him voted in too, I don't vote for people on that basis, I look at what they're interested in or previous voting record if they've stood before.
I loathe Farage and his pals & hope they get less media attention now they've so outnumbered

Chestnut Tue 09-Jul-24 14:47:26

NotSpaghetti

44 days is not 4 weeks Chestnut it's just over 6.

...still a "snap" election though.

Parliament has to be dissolved for 25 working days before an election so logically that means a minimum of 5 weeks.

Sorry, my mistake. It's still a very short time frame to prepare. I do have sympathy for any party trying to break through and establish itself. The Greens have been around 34 years and are still climbing that hill. For a new party finding suitable candidates and people to organise everything, plus funding must be a huge challenge.

paddyann54 Tue 09-Jul-24 14:28:19

Wasn't just candidates who were fake/dead..on their leaflet here there were two old people one who died aged 102 4 years ago and the one who brought it to light an old lady who had an accident that was in the newspapers...of course people recognised her and knew she had died .
Of course they learned from the big boys ..abour did just this in the first referendum in Scotland in 1979...they used dead people as NO voters ,otherwise Yes would have won.
Before anyone calls me a LIAR again...check it out..its true! People on the voters roll who had recently died were deemed to be NO voters .That unionist politics for you.

NotSpaghetti Tue 09-Jul-24 14:22:30

vegansrock

As Reform is a limited company I look forward to Farages declaration of interests MP have to make about their income from all sources.

And if they'd got enough seats for public funding... ?