The first covid report

It is very interesting to hear the initial findings. Somehow though a lot of people don't want to know. Valance now in the government again, Whittey knighted. Anyone would think that the country did a great job.

See "analysis" at 13.52, its live streaming

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c4ng7j486pdt

Thanks for that I can’t do links for some unknown reason.

I’m not sure it’s a big surprise to anyone really.

Here is the actual report. I'm working my way through it.

covid19.public-inquiry.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/18095012/UK-Covid-19-Inquiry-Module-1-Full-Report.pdf

No, it's not a big surprise, Cossy

Thank you.

I can only hope this review didn't cost too much. The main findings are blatantly obvious.

Aveline

I can only hope this review didn't cost too much. The main findings are blatantly obvious.

This is only the initial report, there are about half a dozen more to come.

Baroness Hallett has said she will still be working on this report and its recommendations for the next 12 months at least to make sure her recommendations are being adhered to. Good to hear that she will not be thinking job done now the first report is out and it gradually gets forgotten about.

I hope that a lot has been done already, one immediate problem was lack of PPE stocks, they knew there should have been emergency stocks but it had not been done.
No excuses the government has plenty of storage space on redundant military bases, it would be a question worth asking in parliament.

The next pandemic will be different so we can only provide general emergency provision, possibly a trained NHS Reserve Corps. It’s not possible to have a surplus of doctors and nurse's on standby continuously, or every conceivable medical device available instantly.

hey did have emergency stocks, David. Unfortunately the tories had handed it to a private company to manage and much of what they had was out of date, because it hadn't been properly managed...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-52440641

Here is a link from April 2020 that refers to PPE not being in stock at the start of the pandemic.

Aveline

I can only hope this review didn't cost too much. The main findings are blatantly obvious.

So far it's has cost £70 million in last financial year, so The Times reports. Still more to go.

£70 million!!! money better spent on the NHS.

Think it would have been more to the point to get a general view of the opinions of the public yes the public politicians love to say they know what they want Its only the public on mass who have different opinions so instead of presuming to speak for the public treat us like adults who can think just as well as a lot of mps Well after that bbc loving the pointless inquiry as it helps to continue their downing of the last goverment Personally i think the goverment did really well in an unpresidented situation They got money to people who had to be of work and vaccines out quickly

It's worth it as it considers how best to be prepared and manage future incidents! Serious sets of recommendations for scientific and practical management. Isn't that a good idea? without it we could just blunder again into a similar situation. A lot of it is about the science.

Section 5 is particularly good, look at its recommendations.

I am sorry but does it consider that the public response has also probably changed forever. I dont think I would support future lockdowns for example, the damage lockdowns have done to children is immeasurable. It will be highly unlikely that people are going to follow government advice in the event of another pandemic.

I hope the current government starts immediately on the 10 recommendations

That’s unlikely. There was nothing about it in the king’s speech.

Smileless2012

£70 million!!! money better spent on the NHS.

Indeed.
The whole thing is/was a total waste of time and money.

Galaxy

I am sorry but does it consider that the public response has also probably changed forever. I dont think I would support future lockdowns for example, the damage lockdowns have done to children is immeasurable. It will be highly unlikely that people are going to follow government advice in the event of another pandemic.

Even if we look at many people died in New Zealand compared to the UK? Both I and my family locked down before we were told to and would do so again.

maddyone

^I hope the current government starts immediately on the 10 recommendations^

That’s unlikely. There was nothing about it in the king’s speech.

The King's Speech doesn't set out the only items on the government's agenda for the next year. There's nothing to stop the government acting on a report.

In any case, the report was only published today. Even if the government had prior access to it they would need time to consider its recommendations before formulating any response.

I suspect knee jerk reactions won't be the style of this administration...

Galaxy

I am sorry but does it consider that the public response has also probably changed forever. I dont think I would support future lockdowns for example, the damage lockdowns have done to children is immeasurable. It will be highly unlikely that people are going to follow government advice in the event of another pandemic.

I agree Galaxy I would absolutely not support a repeat of the lockdowns we endured. Not just children, but adolescents and even university students suffered severe and lasting damage.
There was little logic to some of "the rules". MPs and the like could be in close contact indoors for working, but a snowball fight on a common was considered a heinous breech of the rules? You could meet your mum up the local park in the morning and your dad in the afternoon, but not both together at the same time even though they shared the same house (and bed!). Public compliance would be a great deal more difficult in any future pandemic.

maddyone

^I hope the current government starts immediately on the 10 recommendations^

That’s unlikely. There was nothing about it in the king’s speech.

😀😀

MayBee70

Galaxy

I am sorry but does it consider that the public response has also probably changed forever. I dont think I would support future lockdowns for example, the damage lockdowns have done to children is immeasurable. It will be highly unlikely that people are going to follow government advice in the event of another pandemic.

Even if we look at many people died in New Zealand compared to the UK? Both I and my family locked down before we were told to and would do so again.

No one has a clue the form that the next pandemic will take, or how deadly it will be.

No one can therefore make announcements like “ I won’t support another lockdown”

It isn’t a question of support, it is a question of listening to the scientists and carrying out best practice.