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KAMALA HARRIS

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Bea65 Sun 21-Jul-24 23:06:16

There has never been a male spouse of a US PRESIDENT and if Kamala is nominated as candidate and elected , her husband would be known as FIRST GENTLEMAN … I wish her every success in the election as she will have to face off with bully boy Trump

Urmstongran Mon 22-Jul-24 17:12:18

Casdon

Urmstongran

Some background. And there WILL be more …

Kamala Harris:
Slept with her former boss while he was married and then took the role after him.
Deliberately kept evidence that would have exonerated a prisoner out of court
locked up 1,000 of people for cannabis use, while laughing and admitting to using it herself.
She called Joe Biden a racist and then agreed to be his VP.

Urmstongran, is this some kind of diss the politician competition that only you know the rules of so far?
Seriously, why are you doing this, do you want somebody to leap in and post a bad thing Trump has done for every one Harris has done, like some weird game of Top Trumps? (Freudian slip there grin)

My sincere apologies Casdon, seriously. You are right of course. It’s not very edifying is it? I got carried away (I do this at times, it’s one of my charms. Cough). It’s just when I see KH (aka “Word Salad Annie” - okay, okay - I’m REALLY going to desist now - honestly! But it did amuse me!) being almost deified (Harris = GOOD Trump = BAAD man) when I know for sure Trump truly does have millions of supporters, I suppose I, as often the ‘lone voice’ on these threads, push my support too hard.

I am genuinely sorry. It must be irritating. I will curb it from now on.

But please remember (all of you) Trump IS actually very popular with many many good people. OMG! I sound like the man himself there hehe!

🤐🤐

petra Mon 22-Jul-24 17:14:05

This piece on radio 4 this afternoon explains why Trump has a huge following in the black community.
It was no surprise to me as I’ve read so much on this topic.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00219cv

Galaxy Mon 22-Jul-24 17:14:51

I do note that it is Urms who constantly apologises whilst those who describe people as rednecks, those whose comments after Trump was shot were unpleasant never do so. Its fascinating.

petra Mon 22-Jul-24 17:18:06

In the piece I linked there are several rappers airing their support. These artists have a gargantuan following and power.
More on the above.

www.cbsnews.com/news/sada-baby-queen-latifah-rappers-trump-biden-2024/

Urmstongran Mon 22-Jul-24 17:18:20

MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

Kamala Harris was very close to Willie Brown.

He helped her to get two influential positions in California.

There is lots of info on the internet.

Are you anti democratic as well, GG13.

Or are you spreading tales about Harris just for 'balance'?

Balance I imagine in GG13’s case. I find her to be measured in her responses. She likes fairnessand will often give the other POV. There is, of course, always one to consider! (Just that these threads are often an echo chamber 🤣).

Urmstongran Mon 22-Jul-24 17:19:30

Galaxy

It's not tales, that information re the relationship is everywhere. It is of no interest to me either way but its readily available information. Conjecture about the relationship is probably as accurate as calling people rednecks.

Now that DID make me laugh!

Urmstongran Mon 22-Jul-24 17:20:42

Iam64

Urmston if you ever did report, I’m certain you’d tell the poster you planned to and give clear reasons

It seems the secret report button monitor has been busy. I’ve noticed two regular posters are absent.

Blimey.
You are very perceptive Miss Marple. 🕵️‍♂️ 😁
I never notice these things.

Iam64 Mon 22-Jul-24 17:27:57

Thanks for the link Petra, I heard some of the radio 4 programme, it’s interesting isn’t it.

Trump has a huge following - including Americans of black and Latino heritage. Even more of a mystery to me is the reality that many women admire him. He’s a misogynist, he happily boasted about grabbing p****y - they’ll let you do anything if you’re rich 😵‍💫
He’s a loathsome individual, he is offensive about and towards people. I have grandsons - no way would we want them to see him as a role model
AND in insurrection . ,,

Go Kamala let’s hope you win,

Urmstongran Mon 22-Jul-24 17:29:11

Or, let’s hope you don’t.

Casdon Mon 22-Jul-24 17:30:13

Forgiven Urmstongran, I know, I’m boring on about fake news again.

Having never called Trump supporters rednecks or said anything about him being shot, I’m relieved Galaxy doesn’t mean me, at least.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 22-Jul-24 17:34:08

MaizieD you obviously missed my post of 16.22.08 🙈

Iam64 Mon 22-Jul-24 17:37:20

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD you obviously missed my post of 16.22.08 🙈

Just seen it GrannyGravy 🌻. We have an outbreak of interesting discussion without SHOUTING . Fabulous

LauraNorderr Mon 22-Jul-24 17:54:43

Politically I am more a Republican than a Democrat but hope for the sake of the rest of the world that Kamala Harris or whoever is to replace Joe Biden kicks Trump in to the wilderness.
I really love your posts Urms, I don’t agree with many of your political views but love how you throw a little grenade in here and there and then sit back and enjoy.
Always polite, always self deprecating. Always make me smile.
Makes it all more entertaining for the rest of us.

MaizieD Mon 22-Jul-24 17:56:49

Urmstongran

MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

Kamala Harris was very close to Willie Brown.

He helped her to get two influential positions in California.

There is lots of info on the internet.

Are you anti democratic as well, GG13.

Or are you spreading tales about Harris just for 'balance'?

Balance I imagine in GG13’s case. I find her to be measured in her responses. She likes fairnessand will often give the other POV. There is, of course, always one to consider! (Just that these threads are often an echo chamber 🤣).

I'd much rather have a response from GG13, Ug.

I'm afraid that your opinion doesn't interest me.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 22-Jul-24 17:59:13

MaizieD I have responded…

See my post of 17.34.08

GrannyGravy13 Mon 22-Jul-24 18:00:25

GrannyGravy13

If she receives the Democratic nomination, I would like her to win.

Unfortunately I do not think that the USA is going to vote for a female POTUS, especially a women of colour.

In case you missed it the first time MaizieD

MaizieD Mon 22-Jul-24 18:01:01

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD you obviously missed my post of 16.22.08 🙈

I did miss it.

It still doesn't help me to understand why you felt you needed to post a bit of gossip about Harris's past. But let's leave it.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 22-Jul-24 18:04:02

MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD you obviously missed my post of 16.22.08 🙈

I did miss it.

It still doesn't help me to understand why you felt you needed to post a bit of gossip about Harris's past. But let's leave it.

It isn’t gossip it is a fact, highlighted at the time, and again when she was appointed as VP.

Politics is a dirty business as you well now, their past is
there for all to see, even more so since the invention of the www.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 22-Jul-24 18:09:58

It’s been fact checked by Reuters.

MaizieD Mon 22-Jul-24 18:15:49

True or not, it's still gossip. Why did you think we needed to be told about it? hmm

MaizieD Mon 22-Jul-24 18:21:49

Casdon

Forgiven Urmstongran, I know, I’m boring on about fake news again.

Having never called Trump supporters rednecks or said anything about him being shot, I’m relieved Galaxy doesn’t mean me, at least.

It only takes one poster to step out of Galaxy's line and we're all tarred with the same brush.

I realise that this could be deleted, but it gets a bit tiring..

Casdon Mon 22-Jul-24 18:27:52

In fairness to GrannyGravy13 what she said is factually accurate. What wasn’t accurate was that he was still married at the time, which GG13 did not say. It was a consensual relationship years after his divorce, which neither of them have denied. It’s a bit of a non story really, it’s just that the Trump entourage are trying to make something of it.

foxie48 Mon 22-Jul-24 18:31:41

It was "fact checked" by Reuters because the facts were being manipulated to suggest KH was having an illicit affair with a married man to enhance her career prospects AND it wasn't true!

Why anyone is prepared to be a politician is totally beyond me. It's not just a dirty business it pollutes everyone! Just out of interest I looked at a huge variety of media to see how Biden's announcement and KH's endorsement was reported tbh it was pretty sickening .

Rosie51 Mon 22-Jul-24 18:41:36

Casdon

In fairness to GrannyGravy13 what she said is factually accurate. What wasn’t accurate was that he was still married at the time, which GG13 did not say. It was a consensual relationship years after his divorce, which neither of them have denied. It’s a bit of a non story really, it’s just that the Trump entourage are trying to make something of it.

Just in the interests of the accuracy everyone says they want, he was still legally married, not divorced, but separated for many years. That's stated clearly in the Reuter's factcheck.

Of course it's a non story, much of the dirt dished out on public figures whether politicians or not comes under the same heading.

Odious as he is I can imagine even Trump has been subject to similar treatment, people do like to gild the lily even when there's plenty of real ammunition.

Casdon Mon 22-Jul-24 18:46:59

Thanks Rosie51. I’ve never understood why women are so ruthless in their pursuit of women in positions of power who have relationships with men with a past, when men who do the same (or worse) seem to get a feee pass.