KAMALA HARRIS

Oreo

Urmstongran

Well, whatever the pros and cons of the candidates, I hope they keep a tight control of the voting machines and the postal ballot, this time.

Not only must the election be fair, it must be seen to be fair. Whatever one's views of the 2020 election, it will not be good if there are hundreds more affidavits attesting to voting irregularities in November.

It sure needs to be seen to be fair as there could be unrest like last time if not.
It seems to be a very complicated affair, not as straightforward as UK voting.

Memo to other posters, if another poster has different views to you about a politician then maybe accept it and don’t make fake sympathy comments asking ‘hope you are alright?’ I really hate that, I mean it’s so patronising.

The election was fair last time : fact.

There were no irregularities in the election , this was proven over and over by recounts and independent investigors.
Implying there was is just copying a page out of Trump’s playbook.

Let’s not forget that Dominion, the company accused of having voting machines with irregularities won a lawsuit against Trump.

Please stop posting false narratives that have been proven false repeatedly at great cost to the American taxpayer.

The greatest cost came at those who lost their lives on January 6 . Police officers that died defending the US Capitol .

I meant investigators.

Syracute

Oreo

Urmstongran

Well, whatever the pros and cons of the candidates, I hope they keep a tight control of the voting machines and the postal ballot, this time.

Not only must the election be fair, it must be seen to be fair. Whatever one's views of the 2020 election, it will not be good if there are hundreds more affidavits attesting to voting irregularities in November.

It sure needs to be seen to be fair as there could be unrest like last time if not.
It seems to be a very complicated affair, not as straightforward as UK voting.

Memo to other posters, if another poster has different views to you about a politician then maybe accept it and don’t make fake sympathy comments asking ‘hope you are alright?’ I really hate that, I mean it’s so patronising.

The election was fair last time : fact.

There were no irregularities in the election , this was proven over and over by recounts and independent investigors.
Implying there was is just copying a page out of Trump’s playbook.

Let’s not forget that Dominion, the company accused of having voting machines with irregularities won a lawsuit against Trump.

Please stop posting false narratives that have been proven false repeatedly at great cost to the American taxpayer.

The greatest cost came at those who lost their lives on January 6 . Police officers that died defending the US Capitol .

Exactly.

1984

The election was fair last time : fact

Hear, hear Syracute👏👏👏

I see that Urmstongran is still holding not just a candle for Chump, but a whole Olympic torch! Given that he is a proven sexist, racist, fraud, liar and braggart, I wonder what other qualities she admires?

Let's see, he is a multiple bankrupt, rejoiced in stiffing his investors, and back in the day he wrote that "it's poor people's fault they're poor, they're stupid", and of course he was caught in an Apprentice out-take saying to his friend "let's go grab some pussy, they love it".

We could add on his conviction for claiming the Stormy payment as 'Election campaign expenses' (of course he could pay hookers, but it's illegal to do that accounting!), not so much the shock-horror that a politician might get involved with other women (Kennedy struggled to keep his trousers on with females nearby) but that he blatantly lied about it, before, during and after the trial, we know this because he admitted it all in a series of Q&A sessions in that 2016 campaign.

He's having the same sort of issues as Biden, at a recent rally attacked the crime rate in Washington (crime figures are generally down over there), blamed Biden for the cost of air fares (which have increased at less than inflation's rate), and claimed that his own reign had seen the "greatest tax cuts in history" (actually the 8th highest since 1900).

His recent escape from that bullet is some irony, after the 2017 Las Vegas massacre (a guy took umpteen machine guns into an hotel, and from an upper floor mowed down a mass of people at an event, 60 dead, and hundreds wounded); Chump was asked about gun control, said "we'll look at it". And a few weeks later, made it even EASIER to get guns (in some States, they'd ask more question re a dog licence).

And of course, he might win in November, the election will be decided by relatively low numbers of voters in about 7 or 8 'Swing States' and the fact that he's even regarded as credible is a testament to the amount of gullibility over there.

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Hear hear

DrWatson thank you so much for your brilliant posts. Much appreciated, as always!

If Trump is such a non threat then this will be a cake walk for Kamala Harris.

It won’t be though and the Democrats know that.

Syracute

Oreo

Urmstongran

Well, whatever the pros and cons of the candidates, I hope they keep a tight control of the voting machines and the postal ballot, this time.

Not only must the election be fair, it must be seen to be fair. Whatever one's views of the 2020 election, it will not be good if there are hundreds more affidavits attesting to voting irregularities in November.

It sure needs to be seen to be fair as there could be unrest like last time if not.
It seems to be a very complicated affair, not as straightforward as UK voting.

Memo to other posters, if another poster has different views to you about a politician then maybe accept it and don’t make fake sympathy comments asking ‘hope you are alright?’ I really hate that, I mean it’s so patronising.

The election was fair last time : fact.

There were no irregularities in the election , this was proven over and over by recounts and independent investigors.
Implying there was is just copying a page out of Trump’s playbook.

Let’s not forget that Dominion, the company accused of having voting machines with irregularities won a lawsuit against Trump.

Please stop posting false narratives that have been proven false repeatedly at great cost to the American taxpayer.

The greatest cost came at those who lost their lives on January 6 . Police officers that died defending the US Capitol .

Syracute sigh
You don’t seem to get nuanced comments, but don’t worry, you’re not alone on here for that issue.
In a previous post by me you didn’t get the word appears to be ( rather than actually is) and in my post above you don’t get it either, even tho I put the word seen in bold.It’s mega important this time around to give DT ( who I detest as much as you do) no grounds at all for appealing about votes so that means no confusion whatsoever, nothing/zip/ nada for him to be able to complain about.That’s what being seen to be fair means.

Oreo
It sure needs to be seen to be fair
-yes,
... the trouble is, only those with 'eyes to see' will be able to see the transparency.

He’s got the attention span of a fruit fly, the emotional stability of a cranky toddler, the ethics of a mobster, the narcissism of a supermodel, the honesty of North Korea’s press agency and the foreign policy knowledge of a 'fry cook'.

Now that's excellent. Love it

NotSpaghetti

Oreo
It sure needs to be seen to be fair
-yes,
... the trouble is, only those with 'eyes to see' will be able to see the transparency.

The authorities in charge of the voting must be scrupulous, even more so than ever this time.Can’t possibly have a re-run of the rioting last time.

Although a great deal of focus is on who will be elected president in the USA, folks need to remember that in the long run it is how many members each party gets elected to their House and Senate if laws are going to be passed.

Oreo

NotSpaghetti

Oreo
It sure needs to be seen to be fair
-yes,
... the trouble is, only those with 'eyes to see' will be able to see the transparency.

The authorities in charge of the voting must be scrupulous, even more so than ever this time.Can’t possibly have a re-run of the rioting last time.

It won’t make a jot of difference, they were fair and utterly transparent last time.

The only hope is that the insurgent leaders will still be in prison.

rocketship

Although a great deal of focus is on who will be elected president in the USA, folks need to remember that in the long run it is how many members each party gets elected to their House and Senate if laws are going to be passed.

Yes, and that is a worry.

Whitewavemark2 I seem to remember some confusion about the counting in one State or part of a State, it was four years ago. I can try and google about it.
Anyhow it gave DT an excuse to demand a recount.

Cossy

Wishing her and the Democrats all the luck in the world, be a complete disaster if Trump wriggles through as President again! Sorry, but to me, most of his supporters are knuckle dragging red necks

I so agree cossy, Trump wants to pal up with Putin who will run rings round him

rocketship

Although a great deal of focus is on who will be elected president in the USA, folks need to remember that in the long run it is how many members each party gets elected to their House and Senate if laws are going to be passed.

Very true, Obama couldn’t get many laws through as the Republicans had the majority there.

Listening to Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 last week I was highly amused to hear his interview of an " Asparomancer ".
That's a,lady who predicts the future by " casting " asparagus, of all things.
She interpreted the way the spears fell " like runes " she said !
When asked who was going to be the next president she cast her asparagus and declared it would be neither Trump or Biden. That was before this news broke. It will be a woman ,she declared!
Well , who knew,?
A bit obvious, I guess.
She also predicted that Keir Starmer wasn't going to last long as PM or leader of the Labour party.
Let's wait and see.
You heard it first here !!!

Oreo

Whitewavemark2 I seem to remember some confusion about the counting in one State or part of a State, it was four years ago. I can try and google about it.
Anyhow it gave DT an excuse to demand a recount.

Recounts are not evidence that the original count was inherently false or fraudulent, though. They happen all the time in the US & the UK system. Only Trump could spin them as evidence that the original count was fraudulent. And be believed ... 🙄

I agree MaizieD but I think there was more kerfuffel than usual, must go away and google it.

Mirren

Listening to Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 last week I was highly amused to hear his interview of an " Asparomancer ".
That's a,lady who predicts the future by " casting " asparagus, of all things.
She interpreted the way the spears fell " like runes " she said !
When asked who was going to be the next president she cast her asparagus and declared it would be neither Trump or Biden. That was before this news broke. It will be a woman ,she declared!
Well , who knew,?
A bit obvious, I guess.
She also predicted that Keir Starmer wasn't going to last long as PM or leader of the Labour party.
Let's wait and see.
You heard it first here !!!

Haha I remember seeing her on tv.She predicted an August GE and that the Labour Party would have a different leader by then.
She would do better to cook the asparagus spears and eat them with butter.😂

Can’t possibly have a re-run of the rioting last time.

But how to stop it if he doesn't win, Oreo?

Oreo

Whitewavemark2 I seem to remember some confusion about the counting in one State or part of a State, it was four years ago. I can try and google about it.
Anyhow it gave DT an excuse to demand a recount.

Which they did and it was a false accusation.
Like all his other accusations regarding voting fraud.
I do think they found a couple of republicans that committed voter fraud though😅
How many times do I need to write this .
It’s been thoroughly investigated.