Rachel Reeves has announced that winter fuel payments will only be paid to those on Pension Credit.nsion Credit

Nicenanny3

Rachel Reeves claimed £214,000 in expenses last year. What a hypocrite she is. Shameless.

So were those expenses that she shouldn’t have claimed? Were they fraudulent in some way?

Oreo

David49

Prescriptions are highly likely to be next and those with long term issues can get an annual exemption. Giving benefits to those that don’t need it is very wasteful, it’s about protecting the vulnerable not gifting the well off.

Who do you class as well off? If free prescriptions are only there for those pensioners who receive benefits then a whole load of pensioners who are just over the threshold will also have to pay, and believe me they are not well off.
If all the extras are to be taken away from pensioners then the state pension should be increased.

The whole objective is to reduce benefits to those that don’t need it, in many countries the state pension itself is means tested. My sister in Australia gets no state pension at all, and would only be average wealth

Mps have always claimed expenses.

David49

Oreo

David49

Prescriptions are highly likely to be next and those with long term issues can get an annual exemption. Giving benefits to those that don’t need it is very wasteful, it’s about protecting the vulnerable not gifting the well off.

Who do you class as well off? If free prescriptions are only there for those pensioners who receive benefits then a whole load of pensioners who are just over the threshold will also have to pay, and believe me they are not well off.
If all the extras are to be taken away from pensioners then the state pension should be increased.

The whole objective is to reduce benefits to those that don’t need it, in many countries the state pension itself is means tested. My sister in Australia gets no state pension at all, and would only be average wealth

So is that normal Labour policy?

Or is it Tory Party policy, in which case there would be equal outcry but from a different group of people.

HattieTopper

They took away our free TV licence, now the winter fuel allowance and next April, I bet we will be paying tax on our state pensions. Why not shoot us and have done with it.

Golly 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I am sure there is more to come. Pensioners are the group with the least clout, we have no voice. They did say they are not going to tax workers so which group is left?
I am sad that the Bank of England will not now reduce interest rates because of Rachel Reeves which will affect my son's mortgage which is up for renewal in September.

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MissAdventure

Mps have always claimed expenses.

They have indeed.
Remember the duck house?

My sister in Australia gets no state pension at all, and would only be average wealth
Yes, I am aware of that, Australian relatives have quizzed me about the pension system in the UK.
However, superannuation contributions by employer are compulsory in Australia. Employers pay 11.5% rising to 12% next year.
in 1992 the government made superannuation compulsory to ensure that every working Australian saved for their retirement

Rachel Reeves what a hypocrite

Oh yes, Maddy I do, though I can't remember who claimed it.
Didn't it have a moat around it, too?

Something ridiculous, anyway.

Douglas Hogg aka Viscount Hailsham. Although he did not seek re-election to the Commons …..

dragonfly46

I am sure there is more to come. Pensioners are the group with the least clout, we have no voice. They did say they are not going to tax workers so which group is left?
I am sad that the Bank of England will not now reduce interest rates because of Rachel Reeves which will affect my son's mortgage which is up for renewal in September.

Probably hasn’t affected your sons mortgage as much as Truss’s budget, though?

My friend was £1& tuppence over to receive Pc.. another that sits under blankets-OTOH my now dead MIL was in receipt of PC, never been as well off. Free rent, free council tax, free dentist/ glasses, free tv licence at the time, free care, she used to wind me up & say she was going ring DWP & tell them she didn’t want it 😩

Everything will have a cut off point.
What's the answer to that, though?
If its changed, different people will have the same problem.

maddyone

MissAdventure

Mps have always claimed expenses.

They have indeed.
Remember the duck house?

Yes, and the second home flipping, so in effect we paid both mortgages for MPs.
More than 50 MPs "flipped" their second home allowance last year from one property to another, according to new figures about parliamentary expenses released by the Commons authorities this morning.
Guardian 2009

A total of 232 MPs have changed the address of the property that they have designated as their second home in the last five years - equal to more than one third of all MPs.

Those involved include Prime Minister Gordon Brown and ten Cabinet ministers, among them Ed Balls Yvette Cooper, Andy Burnham, and Alistair Darling, who changed his twice. Seven members of the Shadow Cabinet also switched the address of their second home, including William Hague and schools spokesman Michael Gove.
Daily Mail 20010

That has now been stopped of course.

Keir Starmer, Director of Public Prosecutions for England and Wales announced on 5 February 2010 that three Labour MPs, Elliot Morley, David Chaytor and Jim Devine, and Conservative peer Lord Hanningfield would face criminal charges of false accounting in relation to their expense claims.

Sir Keir Starmer will not approve of MPs breaking any rules re expenses but the rules seem quite generous.

Dianehillbilly1957

Less than a month has passed since coming to power and this is their scant regard for the working class they should be looking after! SO just because we paid extra into the pension pot, and still paying for dentist, optician and other things we're penalised. Much longer and colder winters in the far north of Scotland and paying higher than the rest of the UK for our electric we're in for a cracking winter! Yet there is money for the rest of the world and illegal entry in to UK , charity begins at home. Disgusting nasty government!

Less than a month has passed since coming to power and this is their scant regard for the working class they should be looking after!

The Labour party got into power precisely because they are not the party of the working class.

If they had campaigned, as Corbyn did, for-the-many-not-the-few, they wouldn't have stood a cat in hell's chance.

The modern Labour party is centrist - left of centre - but it is not now representative of the impoverished or the working class. The conditions that created the Labour party no longer exist. Those days of the exploited factory worker and the greedy factory owner are long gone.

Labour now run with both hare and hounds. They are an alternative to the Tory party. Albeit one that wants a more equitable society.

Corbyn wanted to "look after" the working class - and look where that got him. He was pilloried by the very people he wanted to help who insisted he would ruin the economy!

If you want a party that looks out for the working class - you should have voted for Corbyn! I doubt he would have removed the WFA.

I don't know what you think Labour can do. If they go after the wealthy, we are told they will up sticks and leave and take their businesses elsewhere.

So what should they do - where should they get the money from to fill the black holes?

Cutting those expenses seems a very reasonable way to save money.

Mt61

My friend was £1& tuppence over to receive Pc.. another that sits under blankets-OTOH my now dead MIL was in receipt of PC, never been as well off. Free rent, free council tax, free dentist/ glasses, free tv licence at the time, free care, she used to wind me up & say she was going ring DWP & tell them she didn’t want it 😩

Never presume that pensioners who don’t receive PC, that they are loaded, I know lots of my parents friends who struggle to live & can’t get PC- getting Pc put you forward for other freebies!

The rules are extremely generous.
They would be wouldn’t they? They set them!

They'd be revised very quickly if I was pm.

ronib

Douglas Hogg aka Viscount Hailsham. Although he did not seek re-election to the Commons …..

'Humiliated' Tory MP Peter Viggers quits over duck island expense claim

Not Douglas Hogg - he claimed expenses for having his most cleaned.
As you do! 🏰

Moat ...

So what should they do - where should they get the money from to fill the black holes?

Where's MaizieD?

Oh well moat cleaning and duck islands not on my to do lists..,