Riots in Southport

It’s more the point that Labour has to release some prisoners early than they want to. The prisons are full. The CJsystem, the courts etc all stretched to breaking point.
We send far too many people to prison who pose little threat to society.
Prison should be for violent dangerous offenders. Like the ones rioting

Unless our political masters get a grip on mass immigration this problem ain't going away. This is happening in Germany, France, Holland, Denmark , Italy and Sweden. It’s not a small number of "hard right" as seems to be the narrative from Starmer and the BBC, Guardian and Ch.4 news. It’s a pan European issue.

My opinion. Not unhinged. How rude.

Urmstongran

Ordinary white people who read that the RAF doesn't want "useless white men", whose children are taught at school that they have "white privilege" (now a Labour policy) - try telling that to a working class white man in Hartlepool, whose son is likely to receive a poor education, come last in the priority for entry to university because of his skin colour and sex, and face prejudice when applying for a job with any national institution. All of this developed under a Conservative government. It wasn't ordinary white people who chose to balkanise England, but the London 'elite' who for the most part don’t listen to them

What on earth is this about?

Can you cite the source, it sounds unhinged...

Ordinary white people who read that the RAF doesn't want "useless white men", whose children are taught at school that they have "white privilege" (now a Labour policy) - try telling that to a working class white man in Hartlepool, whose son is likely to receive a poor education, come last in the priority for entry to university because of his skin colour and sex, and face prejudice when applying for a job with any national institution. All of this developed under a Conservative government. It wasn't ordinary white people who chose to balkanise England, but the London 'elite' who for the most part don’t listen to them

Whitewavemark2

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49886053#
Bit out of date but it explains what you seem never to have heard of.

Whitewavemark2

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

I see there is footage of people now having their front door kicked in and being arrested by the police.

Just when they thought they’d got away with it.

This needs to be advertised far and wide, it will hopefully make one or two less willing to take part in far right thuggery.

A lawyer said this morning that they will be jailed for years not months.

We all know that a year means 6 months.

No we don’t.

That is just something you have put out there.

Come off it! It has been the case for decades that even life rarely means life. It was discussed thoroughly on the news in recent weeks.

It was also discussed fully that Labour wants to release prisoners early. Surely you cannot have missed that!

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

I see there is footage of people now having their front door kicked in and being arrested by the police.

Just when they thought they’d got away with it.

This needs to be advertised far and wide, it will hopefully make one or two less willing to take part in far right thuggery.

A lawyer said this morning that they will be jailed for years not months.

We all know that a year means 6 months.

No we don’t.

That is just something you have put out there.

LizzieDrip

^MPs need to wind their necks in. They can no longer be free from responsibility when they make inflammatory statements in parliament or the media. They should be held to account^

Totally agree WW.

I see Farage has put his racist two pennies in on X. I’m not repeating it because it doesn’t warrant my time.

Yes I think that Farage needs to be brought to account, but to do so without giving him the oxygen of publicity, would be desirable.

Whitewavemark2

I see there is footage of people now having their front door kicked in and being arrested by the police.

Just when they thought they’d got away with it.

This needs to be advertised far and wide, it will hopefully make one or two less willing to take part in far right thuggery.

A lawyer said this morning that they will be jailed for years not months.

We all know that a year means 6 months.

MPs need to wind their necks in. They can no longer be free from responsibility when they make inflammatory statements in parliament or the media. They should be held to account

Totally agree WW.

I see Farage has put his racist two pennies in on X. I’m not repeating it because it doesn’t warrant my time.

They will also arresting those who have whilst not attending actual riots have in effect aided and abetted by their actions or rhetoric.

Watch our Farage, Tice, Braverman and the rest of their type.

I see there is footage of people now having their front door kicked in and being arrested by the police.

Just when they thought they’d got away with it.

This needs to be advertised far and wide, it will hopefully make one or two less willing to take part in far right thuggery.

A lawyer said this morning that they will be jailed for years not months.

Iam64

Four weeks into being our government and facing such widespread, dangerous public disorder. Also, parliamentarians all due much needed holidays they now won’t get.

This is a bit of a question, isn't it?

Have we seen 'peak rioting' this weekend or are the ringleaders planning more disruption over the coming days?

I hope the police get a chance to catch their breath before anything else happens.

JaneJudge

serco does seem to be paid loads of money by the government for all sorts of things

Yes Jane they do. It makes for interesting reading. Still easier to blame " the illegals"

Four weeks into being our government and facing such widespread, dangerous public disorder. Also, parliamentarians all due much needed holidays they now won’t get.

serco does seem to be paid loads of money by the government for all sorts of things

I would very much like to see a full public enquiry about this sorry episode, that in particular looks at the way those influencers of far right propaganda, division and hate - and I include politicians in this have been allowed to work without impunity.

This all needs to be brought out into the open, and then tackled with full transparency.

Underlying issues of inequality must also be recognised as a dangerous factor in this as well.

MayBee70

Villagers near to me were very upset that a hotel was being used to house migrants as people were no longer able to use the gym at the hotel and there wasn’t another one nearby that they could use.

I'm sure they were. Perhaps they could have asked why the government chose to house people in hotels and pay SERCO billions of pounds?

Villagers near to me were very upset that a hotel was being used to house migrants as people were no longer able to use the gym at the hotel and there wasn’t another one nearby that they could use.

MaizieD

Oh dear, Sarah... 😱

Blue Labour?

Or very inexperienced n a former Tory seat and wanting to please some constituents initially. It may or may not be the case that locals missed and really needed the holiday Inn or that the Holiday Inn was failing and the owners decided to rent it out.

MPs need to wind their necks in. They can no longer be free from responsibility when they make inflammatory statements in parliament or the media. They should be held to account.

“Sarah Khan, who wrote a report in 2021 with the current Met commissioner, Sir Mark Rowley, calling for a change in the law on extremism, said it remained the case that it was legal to stir up racial hatred that is not threatening, abusive or insulting.
“And that’s why we’ve seen lawful fascist and neo-Nazi organisations in this country who are doing precisely that,” Khan said. “There are claims about white genocide, promoting dangerous narratives, which is intended to stir up hatred against a racial and religious group.
“There is a kind of growth and influence, not only far-right influencers, but also other extremist actors. There is the use of disinformation on social media.
“Hateful extremism has evolved significantly in the last decade, and extremists have professionalised and coordinated, locally, nationally, transnationally, they’re using social media to spread their extremist ideology and spreading disinformation.
“Our rules have failed to evolve with this growing extremist threat, there are gaps in our legislation that is allowing them to, in effect, operate with impunity.”
Khan said the political tumult in recent years, with the country having five different prime ministers in seven years, had enfeebled the government.

Oh dear, Sarah... 😱

Blue Labour?

x.com/SarahEdwardsTam/status/1820226957851701293

That x Sarah Edwards reference as you implicate are rather naive to say the least.

She's now saying on X, under the Tamworth x website (cant give a ref, had to copy it

"the scenes tonight of violence are shocking and disgraceful and still ongoing. thank you to Staffs police for ensuring the safety of hotel staff and guests. this will not be tolerated in our town. the police officers have my fullest support" (an hour ago)