More knife crime in Southend on sea

Oreo

That’s good GrannyGravy hope this will be a short lived thing, hot weather madness.
Talking to Mum about it today and she said she remembers that in the 60’s and early 70’s there were lots of face offs in seaside places, Brighton particularly.

Oh yes the mods and rockers, then it was the skin heads.

That’s good GrannyGravy hope this will be a short lived thing, hot weather madness.
Talking to Mum about it today and she said she remembers that in the 60’s and early 70’s there were lots of face offs in seaside places, Brighton particularly.

SM has a lot to answer for.Huge numbers of kids/ young people can be mobilised at short notice to do something, go somewhere.

Oreo

We used to visit Southend from East London but I haven’t been there in 30 years.

Either side (Chalkwell and Thorpe Bay) are still very family friendly.

petra

My route home is along the seafront. The police presence for the past couple of weeks has been far beyond what we would normally see.
There was obviously a whisper that something was going to kick off.

I had noticed that petra since about 17th July when I started teen sitting two of my GC.

We used to visit Southend from East London but I haven’t been there in 30 years.

For those who don’t know, Southend isn’tthatnear to East London so don’t go blaming Londoners for everything.
Southend is about an hour and a half from East London where I lived until recently. I'm guessing the transport police can check where these hooligans came from, but I can't see East London has been mentioned. We have around 3 million people in East London, the majority of whom are law abiding citizens going about their daily lives. Personally I wouldn't move out of East London to get away from gangs, so I wouldn't think a move from Southend, not that I know it well, necessary either.

Hooligans!

They used to, now far more likely to go to Spain.
Essex no doubt, like all areas of the UK has it’s own hooigans and thugs.

Oreo

For those who don’t know, Southend isn’t that near to East London so don’t go blaming Londoners for everything.😾
Seaside places in the UK in Summer, particularly in hot weather have often been a recipe for punch ups and more.
The trend for knife and machete and zombie knife carrying just makes things worse.
As does SM which directs young people to go to these places.

I wasn’t blaming Londoners for everything and it’s one of the nearest seaside resorts and East Enders have come in their droves for decades and decades, most of whom never cause any issues at all.

For those who don’t know, Southend isn’t that near to East London so don’t go blaming Londoners for everything.😾
Seaside places in the UK in Summer, particularly in hot weather have often been a recipe for punch ups and more.
The trend for knife and machete and zombie knife carrying just makes things worse.
As does SM which directs young people to go to these places.

Witzend

High time we had water cannons!

We sold them to other countries not afraid to use them.

I hope the Dispersal Order did not include these youths. They should be arrested and charged with carrying offensive weapons, incitement to violence and whatever else can be thrown at them.

Who is providing these weapons? Where do they source them?

My route home is along the seafront. The police presence for the past couple of weeks has been far beyond what we would normally see.
There was obviously a whisper that something was going to kick off.

JN450

Jaxjacky

Police Dispersal Orders are issued all the time, all over England, I’m not sure about elsewhere.
The police did not ‘just look on’.
Is there some sort of hysteria affecting certain members of GN so they can’t fact check before posting?
Thank you GG13.

That's funny, but the clip I saw which I have just watched again, on X, clearly shows the Police having to stand there unable to affect anything, probably because they had no tasers and waiting for backup - who can blame them with thugs waiving machetes around, I certainly do not. But dont try to deflect from the actual event, parents having to rush their children into a pub and lock the door behind them must have been incredibly frightening. Seemingly trying to downplay 'events' like this because PDO's are issued all the time serves no-one and certainly does not excuse what happened.

No one is excusing what happened!

As you appear to have viewed at least one of the CCTV footage you will also have seen people walking past on the other side of the road, people shopping, etc,

No mass hysteria, no riots.

Jaxjacky

Police Dispersal Orders are issued all the time, all over England, I’m not sure about elsewhere.
The police did not ‘just look on’.
Is there some sort of hysteria affecting certain members of GN so they can’t fact check before posting?
Thank you GG13.

That's funny, but the clip I saw which I have just watched again, on X, clearly shows the Police having to stand there unable to affect anything, probably because they had no tasers and waiting for backup - who can blame them with thugs waiving machetes around, I certainly do not. But dont try to deflect from the actual event, parents having to rush their children into a pub and lock the door behind them must have been incredibly frightening. Seemingly trying to downplay 'events' like this because PDO's are issued all the time serves no-one and certainly does not excuse what happened.

JN450

GrannyGravy13

I live close to Southend

My AC and GC live even closer.

The CCTV is on the local MP’s X if anyone wishes to view it.

It is not comparable to the riots in Southport.

Apologies if I sound like a Headmistress, (I am not by the way)

Not comparable to the riots in Southport? How about the riots in Leeds? I personally really wouldn't want to compare, they are all simply wrong. However, still no condemnation I see?

If any GN members have viewed the footage they will see that at least one of those sporting a machete was white, you could see their legs as they had shorts on.

The others were had their bodies covered, hoods up and faces covered they could have been bright blue for all we know.

I condemn the violence, but a street fight between six or seven lads is no way comparable to the riots in Southport, Leeds or anywhere else for that matter.

I think the police dealt with it very effectively.

Nicenanny3

Of course England is a tinderbox perhaps people need to get their heads out of the sand. 3 innocent little girls killed and others injured by who we don't exactly know or why. Riots in Southport. Machete fights in Southend. Riots in Leeds, chaos at Manchester Airport with police attacked, the Army major who was at stabbed. Etc etc. Frequent murders/stabbings in London and Manchester. No respect for the police. I could go on. I'm certainly concerned and worried about what is happening to my country.

You omitted the man who murdered the people with a crossbow. So what do you think is the common denominator?

GrannyGravy13

I live close to Southend

My AC and GC live even closer.

The CCTV is on the local MP’s X if anyone wishes to view it.

It is not comparable to the riots in Southport.

Apologies if I sound like a Headmistress, (I am not by the way)

Not comparable to the riots in Southport? How about the riots in Leeds? I personally really wouldn't want to compare, they are all simply wrong. However, still no condemnation I see?

I too live very close to Southend, we are in Suffolk atm.

We do have a lot of Police Dispersal Orders and due to our proximity to the East End of London we do get many people visiting, some of whom can cause issues.

Sadly it’s not a new occurrence, nor luckily on this scale not a regular occurrence.

Don’t worry granny gravy I didn’t take offence at all. Tbh we all need a fact check at times.

High time we had water cannons!

Babs03

I do however think that granny gravy could sound a bit less like a headmistress when correcting me.
Will go to the back of the class 😂

I posted the facts as stated by the Police.

I apologise if you found me too brusque.

I drive the entire length of the seafront on a regularly basis (four times last week and will do later today)

I think the GB Headlines of Mass brawl misleading and inflammatory as are the posted comments after the UTube video on GB site.

Of course England is a tinderbox perhaps people need to get their heads out of the sand. 3 innocent little girls killed and others injured by who we don't exactly know or why. Riots in Southport. Machete fights in Southend. Riots in Leeds, chaos at Manchester Airport with police attacked, the Army major who was at stabbed. Etc etc. Frequent murders/stabbings in London and Manchester. No respect for the police. I could go on. I'm certainly concerned and worried about what is happening to my country.

I live close to Southend

My AC and GC live even closer.

The CCTV is on the local MP’s X if anyone wishes to view it.

It is not comparable to the riots in Southport.

Apologies if I sound like a Headmistress, (I am not by the way)