Why do Asylum Seekers cross the channel on small boats

Thank you Maizie. Words like refugee and asylum seeker are being substituted not just by "migrants" but continually associated with crime, terrorism, danger, attacks, in MSM. It may be subtle compared with onslaughts in SM, but it's pervasive and constant. We do need faster processing in order to determine if they are needed economic migrants but until that point they are technically asylum seekers.

and as someone mentioned earlier, a particular company are making an absolute fortune out of the 'crisis'

foxie48

Just a small correction to GG13's post,

"About 85% of small boat arrivals in the 12 months to March 2024 were male and - where age was recorded - nearly a fifth were between 25 and 39 years old. "

I don't find it surprising as the majority of refugees are male, for women, the journey across the world from Afghanistan, Syria, Iran and Eritrea would be even harder than it is for men who are still fit, it's even more hazardous for women who have children. IME it is normal for refugees to think they can get jobs and send money home back to their families to help them survive, they are not necessarily escaping their responsibilities often quite the reverse.

This has been pointed out time and time again, foxie48. It makes absolute sense that the fittest family members should be the one to make these dangerous journeys. Many families couldn't afford to finance more than one member so choose the one most likely to make it.

As for women, if you could only scrape together enough money to fund one person would you really choose a woman who would not only have to cope with the hardships but would be almost certain to suffer sexual violence at some point?

I find it ironic that these 'fit young men' who make it to the UK are supposedly clogging up the NHS. Schrodinger's immigrant...

Thanks foxie48 I read the report too quickly and not carefully enough.

Do people think they’re being clever by referencing GB News and making daft comments?

Nobody has said they get their figures or photos from there. Most channels show footage of illegal immigrants being escorted through border control wrapped in blankets. Walk past the newspaper stands in any supermarket and there are always such photos on the front pages.

I just googled and this is just the first page of hundreds showing photos from all sources so don’t try and make out it is just GB News!

I can honestly say I have seen reports on ITV, BBC and Channel 4 news regarding people arriving in small boats.

Definitely saw items with video and stills on local TV when I was away on the South Coast 10 days ago.

Heavily weighted to right wing media. BBC was referring to the Illegal Migrants Bill. And a photograph doesn't actually say what the article was about. And no, I'm not daft. I taught bias and can identify it on both sides, thank you

They even tell you on the radio now. I had Classic FM on the other day and during the news section it told you how many crossings there had been, so it has definitely become a 'thing'

These discussions never seem to move beyond the playground. I watch a number of news channels and know that pictures of boats arriving only appear very occasionally when something specific has happened now, and I’m not getting into a completely pointless discussion about GB News. Time to be grown up.

Casdon

These discussions never seem to move beyond the playground.
This is so true of any thread where news or politics or one or two other subjects comes under discussion.

Casdon

These discussions never seem to move beyond the playground. I watch a number of news channels and know that pictures of boats arriving only appear very occasionally when something specific has happened now, and I’m not getting into a completely pointless discussion about GB News. Time to be grown up.

Try actually turning your TV on then Casdon. 🤣🤣

Several people have told you it’s on most channels but you still insist because you don’t see it, it can’t be true. I think you brought upGB News in the first place.

It’s over all kinds of media, I don’t get why some are denying it
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Oreo

It’s over all kinds of media, I don’t get why some are denying it
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Because they think they are always right Oreo😉

I think that people aren't seeing it because it isn't on the media they use every single day. Nor are they particularly looking for the information every day.

GB News has an anti-immigration bias, so has an interest in keeping people indignant about the small boats, that's their audience. Likewise the DM and other rightward leaning print media.

I’m not going to rise to the bait, but check out mainstream media (BBC, ITV, Sky and Reuters for example), and report back on how many different occasions over the last, let’s say three months, there is a non-deaths related report/pictures related to English Channel crossings by small boat. Or carry on regardless.

There’s no bait here Casdon and I see and hear regular updates all the time on the news about small boat crossings.It’s just that you and a few others don’t always see it, but it really is reported a lot.

growstuff

Just in case you don't have the figures to hand, the total for the week up to 18 August was 746, which works ot to just less than 107 a day.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/5cede69b-a408-47eb-8933-31fb2813ab77

What a relief, that's just 39,055 in a year, no problem, and just a mere 195,000 in 5 years.

Wyllow3

Thank you Maizie. Words like refugee and asylum seeker are being substituted not just by "migrants" but continually associated with crime, terrorism, danger, attacks, in MSM. It may be subtle compared with onslaughts in SM, but it's pervasive and constant. We do need faster processing in order to determine if they are needed economic migrants but until that point they are technically asylum seekers.

If economic migrants then they should be deported.We do take economic migrants who come here on a visa, the legal route.

If genuine asylum seekers then they would be allowed to stay if they have no criminal convictions.

Chestnut

growstuff

Just in case you don't have the figures to hand, the total for the week up to 18 August was 746, which works ot to just less than 107 a day.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/5cede69b-a408-47eb-8933-31fb2813ab77

What a relief, that's just 39,055 in a year, no problem, and just a mere 195,000 in 5 years.

The figures are stunning😲I know that Labour want to curb it but aren’t saying how.IMO showering France with cash is like throwing it down the drain.Better to use it to train up staff to process claims.

Oreo

Wyllow3

Thank you Maizie. Words like refugee and asylum seeker are being substituted not just by "migrants" but continually associated with crime, terrorism, danger, attacks, in MSM. It may be subtle compared with onslaughts in SM, but it's pervasive and constant. We do need faster processing in order to determine if they are needed economic migrants but until that point they are technically asylum seekers.

If economic migrants then they should be deported.We do take economic migrants who come here on a visa, the legal route.

I agree, and it is the intention of the new government to
"return people who have no right to be here".

Chestnut

growstuff

Just in case you don't have the figures to hand, the total for the week up to 18 August was 746, which works ot to just less than 107 a day.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/5cede69b-a408-47eb-8933-31fb2813ab77

What a relief, that's just 39,055 in a year, no problem, and just a mere 195,000 in 5 years.

It just goes to show that the claim that immigration is out of control is nonsense. The UK currently allows something over 600,000 immigrants with visas. Those arriving without visas (ie uncontrolled) make up a very small percentage.

Which of those given visas would posters like to deny entry? Don't forget they're paying a hefty fee for NHS services (on top of taxes) and most make a net contribution to the economy. So which ones shouldn't be given visas?

It just goes to show that the claim that immigration is out of control is nonsense
What a deluded and weird statement with nothing to back it up. Of course immigration is out of control, because any attempt to control it is met with a brick wall.

Most of those visas are student visas and most of these go home once they graduate. Som stay on for post graduate studies and then go home.

As far as I know the UK hasn’t got expedition treaties, embassies or any lines of communication with the authorities in Afghanistan, Syria etc.

This means there are no legal routes to send them back

Happy to be informed otherwise.