Killed 50 women allegedly killed by men in UK so far in 2024

I am working in a magistrates court and most cases that come through are domestic violence. Victims have help from IDVAs. They can use live link or screens if they feel intimidated by the defendant and help from people like me from the Witness Service. They are often moved to where the Defendant doesn't know. They get restraining orders. The Police and CPS are taking DV very seriously.

That’s good to hear re the police and cps

Tate moved to Romania so he could rape women ffs what a role model

I thought the UK might extradite him to face charges here?

How disturbing that NF sees AT as a good role model. Apparently AT has just converted to Islam. I'm not sure I believe it, seeing as he was anti Muslim before.

Andrew Tate's brother Tristan Tate, is among those to have donated to the crowdfunder for Dominic Capaldi (the disgraced Bristol Rioter who was jailed for hate crimes) So does that mean the Tates support the riots?

Bearing in mind a mosque was attacked, it believable that AT is really Muslim.

I meant to end with "IS it really believable that AT is really Muslim?"

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Tates know TR 🤷‍♀️

They probably know a lot of men very well, seeing as they sell classes online of how to be as "successful" as them.

It's horrendous.

It’s all not real either but so is a lot of the other stuff we buy into. We are conned really as a society during our visual consumption

Can you explain, Jane?

TR isn’t real. It’s a persona to gain power, control and be disruptive and violent

Andrew Tate and his brother aren’t real either
It’s all to do with violence (and porn)

They are destructive force none the less but they are the puppets. Who is the Grand Master?

I don't know what TR is?

They are real people, but I don't pretend to know how criminal masterminds work. I have no idea who is the Grand master?

The Tate brother's social media profile has the link to the courses they sell.

Tommy Robinson
I wonder who funds it all?
Someone must. Nigel Farage is encouraging it and has previous links with TR and Trump etc
Why is no one asking what is going on?
Is it because Nigel pretends he is normal?

I sound like I am mad 😂🦕

All three of them, the Tate brothers and TR are apparently from ‘Luton’
Does anyone actually believe this?

No, not mad. I just forgot TR existed! 😂

They might be.... Im no expert.

Well - there is talk in various places of the influence of Putin in destabilising the US and UK. It sounds crazy until you read some sensible references

In fact apologies for contaminating this thread about violence against women but - the spectator, the telegraph, sky news and gov.uk have all referred seriously to Putin as a destabiliser

Just looked up the figures for France and its 64 up to mid August. 49 killed at home.
Has become a much talked about subject
here as well.

Shocking

So how would you cope if you found out a member of your family was a follower of Tate?

I worked with a lovely young man who followed him I hope my sons don't.

I am afraid I think the influence of tate is overblown, I think ensuring the legal procedure is followed with regard to his alleged crimes would be the best way forward. I would say if young men are watching porn, listening to the demented 'sex work is work' etc etc then they are being influenced by as much if not more misogyny than listening to Tate. I think Tate is an easy fix that wont make much difference to violence against women. It's easier of course than looking at the prosecution rate of rape.

On the one hand everything I read about Tate has been done before Tate and will be done after Tate. There have always been abusers and misogynists. I have had the misfortune to live with some over the years.

On the other hand, finding out that my son follows Tate explains a lot about the abuse I've had in recent years, interspersed with him estranging me when he doesn't get his way.

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does anyone know what the deleted post said? as I'm a bit wary of mentioning these people as I think they have people who scour the internet for their names and retaliate

It is horrific to think that it is 2024. What the hell is wrong with men? It is all down to control. I was a battered wife with the first husband and looking back I do not know how he didn’t kill me at the time. I got away.

Purple pixie 💖. Great you got out x

It’s tiresome disgusting and horribly unsurprising that so many women have been physically and emotionally abused by men they trusted

I didn't see it, but can anyone PM me to tell me what it was if they did?

I think it's not helpful to be looking over our shoulder. This is anonymous site and my description is probably the same for many, many mothers and wives or girlfriends.