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Starmer's speech 27th Aug 24

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Ilovecheese Tue 27-Aug-24 14:17:45

I can't see another thread on this so thought I would start one. Apologies if I have just missed it.
I will try to give a quick overview of the beginning of the speech:

No one could possibly have foreseen for one second that the Conservatives were not being completely honest about the state of the nations finances. It was therefore a terrible shock to find a "black hole". This means that any promises made before the election, e.g. not removing the winter fuel allowance, can now be totally disregarded.

MayBee70 Tue 03-Sept-24 01:27:48

My partner is convinced that his fathers death from a stroke just before he was due to retire ( he was incredibly fit and healthy for his age) was because of an argument he had with Nigel Lawson about his plans for the mining industry. He was worried sick about what the future held for the miners. People may have been made redundant under other governments but I don’t remember it ever being as bad as it was when Thatcher was PM; remember what Tebbit said about people getting on their bikes. And my husband was an engineer in what should have been a safe industry.

MaizieD Tue 03-Sept-24 08:39:00

Freya5

MayBee70

The portrait totally dominated the room. Thatcher is the total antithesis of everything Starmer stands for and believes in. Is it any wonder that he didn’t want it taking centre stage in that room? Would Thatcher have sat in the shadow of a huge portrait if Keir Hardy every day? I think not. Maybe Brown had it commissioned to remind everybody how her ideologies completely divided the country and continue to do so to this day?

Wonder why no other Labour PM moved this portrait from The Thatcher Room.
Perhaps his Union paymasters made him do it.
He is disparaging the office of PM.
She gathered the country together. He is tearing it apart.

Remarkable historical ignorance here, Freya.

Gordon Brown, for some obscure reason, commissioned the painting. Brown was the last Labour PM before Starmer took office this year.

But do feel free to list all the Labour PMs between Brown and Starmer who didn't have the picture removed..

Doodledog Tue 03-Sept-24 09:16:29

grin

Facts never get in the way of unsubstantiated digs, do they?

Siope Tue 03-Sept-24 10:21:30

Nice catch, MaizieD.