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What do you hope for in the budget?

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Doodledog Sat 21-Sept-24 21:45:17

Just that, really.

There has been so much speculation, scaremongering and all round nonsense spoken lately, that I'm interested to know what people would like to see, and why. Not just what would benefit them personally (for a change) but what would be good for the country as a whole.

I would like to see some announcements about what is not going to happen. If the government doesn't intend to tax holidays and bingo tickets or whatever the papers are pretending, I'd like to see that declared at the start, so people actually listen to the budget, and will possibly stop speculating quite so much going forward. Obviously the papers would just speculate about different things though, so that's probably a bit of a pointless exercise.

I'd like to hear what is intended to happen with pensions, so that people can plan with guarantees. Will there be free contributions for non-workers with school age children, or will everyone be expected to contribute to their retirement - and if so, how will 'retirement' be defined? Can you retire from not working? Are workers expected to support non-workers, and if so, which ones and why? I have no problem with contributing towards benefits for carers, the sick, the disabled or the unemployed, but absolutely object to paying for people to look after their own homes when their children are at school. It would be good if we knew how our taxes are going to be spent on that sort of thing so people can make choices about who to vote for and what to insist on. Too late for our generation, but there is no reason why future ones shouldn't have a say in what their money supports and doesn't.

Apparently one in five people of working age isn't working. I'd like to see figures for that, and a plan for how the government intends to deal with it. Will they force the sick back to work, or will they expect those who do work to do two jobs for one salary? (I'm not saying these things are easy grin).

I'd like to see inheritance tax raised. Not the threshold lowered, but the percentage charged after the threshold raised. Maybe allow a sum per heir free of tax, as opposed to the estate being taxed? That would mean that larger families wouldn't be penalised on a per-person basis, but fewer people would get large sums tax free.

I'm not sure about sugar, alcohol, cigarette or junk food taxes. I'd prefer to see subsidies for healthy foods to make them more affordable and the same applied to soft drinks in pubs and restaurants - currently there is no cost advantage to ordering a non-alcoholic drink, so the options are ridiculously limited,

Enough about my wishlists (which are absolutely open to change if your ideas are better than mine). What are yours?

Doodledog Sun 06-Oct-24 15:56:24

Go away? 😂

Ah, sorry - I didn’t mean to offend anyone. I suppose schools vary. I was part of a group who set up a before and after school club in the 90s. It wasn’t a breakfast club but more like wraparound care, and it was staffed by people separate from the school. The parents’ fees paid their wages. One was an ex-teacher and the others had NNEB-type qualifications. I don’t think TAs were widespread in those days. Anyway, I can’t imagine anyone taking a pay cut.

Mollygo Sun 06-Oct-24 16:04:32

Sorry about Go away
I was dictating what I was saying, when our dog suddenly jumped on me!

Doodledog Sun 06-Oct-24 19:44:28

Mollygo

Sorry about Go away
I was dictating what I was saying, when our dog suddenly jumped on me!

😂

No problem

Mollygo Sun 06-Oct-24 21:08:46

It was a problem! Mr ribs are so painful, but she doesn’t understand that her affection is less welcome than usual!😂😂

Doodledog Sun 06-Oct-24 23:19:22

😂😂

Lydie45 Wed 09-Oct-24 19:17:33

Are you actually calling people who look after their own children ‘free loaders’ 😡

Allira Wed 09-Oct-24 20:01:03

Lydie45

Are you actually calling people who look after their own children ‘free loaders’ 😡

Probably. Ignoring the fact that they had no-one or no facilities to care for their children and felt they were doing a good job in bringing up their own children to be responsible future citizens and taxpayers.

As an aside - everyone seems to be claiming that the money not being given to pensioners (it's not being taken from them as it wasn't theirs in the first place)
What do you mean by that? Was it a gift? No.
It is a reduction in income which was expected for at least the coming year.
Scrooge politics.

Doodledog Wed 09-Oct-24 20:01:40

Lydie45

Are you actually calling people who look after their own children ‘free loaders’ 😡

Who? It is usual to provide a quote or something to show who said what and in what context.

Doodledog Wed 09-Oct-24 23:00:03

I have scanned the whole thread, and can't find a single mention of 'freeloaders' from anyone.

Mollygo Wed 09-Oct-24 23:27:23

It is a reduction in income which was expected for at least the coming year.
And for many it means 11months @around £200 less per month, and the twelfth month with about £400 less.

Doodledog Thu 10-Oct-24 00:13:32

How are we back on this on a thread about what people hope to see in the budget? grin

Wasn’t the WFP an annual sum? Where does £2800 come from?

Doodledog Thu 10-Oct-24 00:15:39

Oh, do you mean the scaremongering about the single person discount on council tax? That is paid over 11 months, but it is not happening. I understand that it had been specifically denied.

Mollygo Thu 10-Oct-24 18:20:46

Doodledog

Oh, do you mean the scaremongering about the single person discount on council tax? That is paid over 11 months, but it is not happening. I understand that it had been specifically denied.

???

Allira Thu 10-Oct-24 20:08:43

Mollygo

Doodledog

Oh, do you mean the scaremongering about the single person discount on council tax? That is paid over 11 months, but it is not happening. I understand that it had been specifically denied.

???

It has been suggested or indicated by Downing Street that this will not happen but not specifically denied.

Doodledog Thu 10-Oct-24 22:52:31

Allira

Mollygo

Doodledog

Oh, do you mean the scaremongering about the single person discount on council tax? That is paid over 11 months, but it is not happening. I understand that it had been specifically denied.

???

It has been suggested or indicated by Downing Street that this will not happen but not specifically denied.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czddl1x1013o

news.sky.com/story/single-person-council-tax-discount-will-not-be-axed-downing-street-suggests-13220781

Nobody will give away definites from an upcoming budget, but these links make the intentions pretty clear.

Doodledog Thu 10-Oct-24 22:53:01

Mollygo

Doodledog

Oh, do you mean the scaremongering about the single person discount on council tax? That is paid over 11 months, but it is not happening. I understand that it had been specifically denied.

???

???
Sorry?

Mollygo Thu 10-Oct-24 23:36:57

Today 22:53 Doodledog

Mollygo
Doodledog
Oh, do you mean the scaremongering about the single person discount on council tax? That is paid over 11 months, but it is not happening. I understand that it had been specifically denied.
???
???
Sorry?
I never said anything about single person whatever, so I have no idea why you a wittering on about it.

Doodledog Fri 11-Oct-24 07:55:37

Rude. You may say I’m ‘wittering’ but I answer posts and ask questions politely.

It was very unclear what you meant by your ‘wittering’ about 11 months at £200 a month, and another at £400; so I guessed at the single person benefit (as council tax is paid over 11 months of the year). Clearly this was wrong, but you gave no clues in your confusing post.

What were you ‘on about’ then?

Mollygo Fri 11-Oct-24 08:20:29

Rude, so you use it in your reply. Equally
rude, then add on about -presumably your own choice of rude. 😂😂😂
All those already getting around £200 less per month will know what I meant. I’m sorry if you didn’t.

Doodledog Fri 11-Oct-24 08:46:20

If only your posts didn't drip with the hypocrisy you claim to despise so much, Molly.

I am not usually rude, as I'm sure most people would agree. However, having ??? as a reply, followed by being told I am 'wittering' pushed me to reply in kind - I rather assumed that a non-hypocrite such as yourself wouldn't object to treatment of the kind they dish out - clearly my mistake. If you find it rude, maybe take a look at your own rather hectoring posting style?

What did you mean about people losing £200 a month for 11 months and £400 for the 12th? It's starting to look like bluster. There is no need to be sorry that I don't know - we will all find out if you tell us. Maybe without the use of laughing emojis and incomprehensible punctuation?

LizzieDrip Fri 11-Oct-24 09:32:32

All those already getting around £200 less per month will know what I meant. I’m sorry if you didn’t

Mollygo this £200 confused me too. Please could you tell me who is getting ‘£200 less a month’. It’s fine for those who ‘know’ but a bit mystifying for those of us don’t. Genuinely interested!

MaizieD Fri 11-Oct-24 09:47:16

I think posts on this page jumped from the discussion of free breakfast clubs in schools, to the withdrawal of the WFA to thecrumour that the single person's council tax discount might be stopped without any actual coherent link between them. An exercise in mind reading...

LizzieDrip Fri 11-Oct-24 09:53:17

Ah, my mind reading skills don’t get going until after lunchgrin

Mollygo Fri 11-Oct-24 10:15:08

If only your posts didn't drip with the hypocrisy you claim to despise so much, Molly.
But hypocrisy is just what I see in many of your posts Doodle. I learnt from your expertise.
Re the approximate £200 less per month, if you don’t know, then you are obviously not affected, so enjoy it.

growstuff Fri 11-Oct-24 10:17:13

Mollygo

Rude, so you use it in your reply. Equally
rude, then add on about -presumably your own choice of rude. 😂😂😂
All those already getting around £200 less per month will know what I meant. I’m sorry if you didn’t.

Please could you enlighten those of us who aren't about to lose £200 a month.