What Will You Do With 10 Million Frozen Pensioners, Rachel?

MissAdventure

Oh, you mean those "so called parents"?

Yep! The ones who can't boil an egg.

The frozen pensioners will be off on a cruise or having some winter sun in their holiday home.

But, what is the real problem - isn't it that too much wealth is in the hands of too few? And if that is the problem, then nothing is going to be done about it. Wealth = power, and those with it want to keep it that way.

Interesting that any discussion of this particular point is mostly studiously ignored or the wealthy are hotly defended, Dickens.

I think that the non-wealthy, in general, suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.'

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

MissAdventure

People who don't own houses work hard too, by the way.

They do.

But I was referencing those who make comments such as, "we worked hard to get where we are today, to buy our own house", etc, etc, in order to make a point.

I wasn't in the market to buy a property until my mid 40s, so I do know what it's like to be, and live among, those who rent - the possible precariousness of a tenancy, not to mention the often exorbitant rents. Neither of which seem to have shown much improvement for renters if my friend is anything to go by - her rent has gone up by 25%... and she also works very hard.

MaizieD

^But, what is the real problem - isn't it that too much wealth is in the hands of too few? And if that is the problem, then nothing is going to be done about it. Wealth = power, and those with it want to keep it that way.^

Interesting that any discussion of this particular point is mostly studiously ignored or the wealthy are hotly defended, Dickens.

I think that the non-wealthy, in general, suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.'

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

Interesting that any discussion of this particular point is mostly studiously ignored or the wealthy are hotly defended...

Dickens

MaizieD

But, what is the real problem - isn't it that too much wealth is in the hands of too few? And if that is the problem, then nothing is going to be done about it. Wealth = power, and those with it want to keep it that way.

Interesting that any discussion of this particular point is mostly studiously ignored or the wealthy are hotly defended, Dickens.

I think that the non-wealthy, in general, suffer from Stockholm Syndrome.'

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

^Interesting that any discussion of this particular point is mostly studiously ignored or the wealthy are hotly defended...^

... posted too soon - hit the wrong key.

Interesting that any discussion of this particular point is mostly studiously ignored or the wealthy are hotly defended

... temporarily embarrassed millionaires?

I think you have hit the nail on the head with the Stockholm Syndrome comment. So many people are seemingly happy with the current level of inequality in the country. The very rich such as the Charlie Mullins chap are very much admired and defended. The rather poor are looked down upon. It might be that blaming people for their own poverty helps to keep at bay the idea that hard times can befall any one of us.

Ilovecheese

I think you have hit the nail on the head with the Stockholm Syndrome comment. So many people are seemingly happy with the current level of inequality in the country. The very rich such as the Charlie Mullins chap are very much admired and defended. The rather poor are looked down upon. It might be that blaming people for their own poverty helps to keep at bay the idea that hard times can befall any one of us.

The very rich such as the Charlie Mullins chap are very much admired and defended

Well I admire the cheeky chappie Charlie Mullins for his get-up-and-go, but the idea that we can all achieve the rags-to-riches dream if only we work hard enough just doesn't wash.

If you intend to build an empire you have to get people to work for you and if we are all going to build empires, who's going to work for whom?

I know he intends to leave rather than pay more tax - which I have a sneaky feeling he might have done anyway. But I think inevitably that someone else will come along to take his place at the top?

I don't think everyone looks down on the poor, but there do appear to be some who think that it can only happen to you if you are the author of your own poverty.

I 'watched' a cyber friend go from riches to rags - purely through his own and his son's ill health. When I 'met' him via an internet group, he was a fairly successful business man.

My DH has had a letter from DWP saying he will still get his WFA as he is on working tax credit.

CoolCoco

The frozen pensioners will be off on a cruise or having some winter sun in their holiday home.

Sarcasm, lowest form of wit!!. Some will, good for them. Most will not. They are the ones you and many others on here think that's OK, because hey take it from pensioners, the undeserving .

Just what we need for the Xmas season: 'a poor man came in sight, gathering winter fuel.'

I think Reeves was foolish to make a one-off announcement about the WFA. The saving is now likely to be offset by additional Pension Credit claims so it won't lead to significant savings. And the optics are awful. They could learn from King Wenceslas.

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