Well Done Rosie Duffield

Well done, Rosie. I'm waiting for the domino effect now.

Smileless2012

Excellent post @ 13.03 Rosie.

When it came to standing against the trans lobbyists RD wasn't simply expressing her ^personal strongly held views^Iam she was stating biological fact and standing up for the rights of natal women, something which too many in positions of power/authority/influence were afraid unwilling to do.

Two recent visits from local councillors - Labour and Green, neither of whom could agree that biological sex is immutable, (I had to explain that word) and that they would be willing to take that fact to the PM, or their party leader, even though one claims in his election leaflets, to be an independent voice.
All the noise about freebies has allowed female rights to be brushed aside, maybe Starmer sees some good in the kerfuffle.

orly

Well done, Rosie. I'm waiting for the domino effect now.

I think you are really over estimating her influence and popularity within the party.

Good for her XX

Are there many Labour MPs waiting to cast aside their promises to their electorate?

What promises exactly?? Anniebach

True allegiance to the Crown is the oath. FYI

No, As of today, the praise she has received has been from mainly Conservative MP's. I see no dominos.

www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbury/news/she-can-stand-tall-for-having-done-what-is-right-mp-prais-313632/

Yes some conservative MP have praised her .

*ronib’ FYI I didn’t speak of the oath but the promise one makes when declaring one’s party allegiance and when meeting and greeting as the prospective Labour MP

Anniebach I think the Crown takes priority over party?

She campaigned as a Labour candidate, she would have been selected to stand ,

After reading the thread and googling, I guess she is a "marmite" person: she does have a long history of disputes:

in January 2022 Sky News reported

Rosie Duffield: Labour MP considering leaving party over 'obsessive harassment' from current and former members:

Ms Duffield, who represents the seat of Canterbury in Kent, said the party under both Jeremy Corbyn and successor Sir Keir Starmer has "offered me no support at all since I unexpectedly became an MP five years ago".

ronib

Anniebach I think the Crown takes priority over party?

You know exactly what Anniebach meant ronib. Allegiance to the crown is something all MPs do, and it’s not pertinent in this context, is it? If any MP stands for a party, they are promising the electorate that they will deliver that party’s manifesto on their behalf. That’s why people choose that particular candidate. Unless you feel that it’s acceptable for all MPs to free vote on every issue with no party accountability, perhaps?

Casdon but since when has any manifesto ever been delivered?
I think a great improvement is to forget all this party allegiance and allegiance to the country MPs are elected to serve. Bring it on ….

Is that not what MPs promise their voters ronib?
Do you seriously think all MPs should stand for themselves without any party allegiance and that voters should expect them to vote just as they please on every issue?

Spinnaker

Let's hope this is just the beginning of his downfall 🤞

I certainly hope so.

unless you feel that it’s acceptable for all MPs to free vote on every issue with no party accountability

Yes, I do.
I don't agree with the whipping system actually.

So every MP should be independent? could not work

Rosie Duffield's views were well known within the Labour Party and outside when she stood for the third time and her majority increased from 1,836 to 8,653.
Yes Maddyfour I think I agree with you. I thought it was shocking of Starmer to suspend the whip for six months for the seven Labour MPs who voted according to their conscience concerning the cap on child benefit. It is blind allegiance to the Party beliefs which allows the growth of dictatorships.

maddyfour

^unless you feel that it’s acceptable for all MPs to free vote on every issue with no party accountability ^

Yes, I do.
I don't agree with the whipping system actually.

So there would be 650 independent MPs, how do you envisage that working? How would these individuals be accountable to their electorate if there was no party structure? How would decisions be reached? Who would lead? Is there anywhere in the world that operates such a system?

Quote eazybee Mon 30-Sep-24 16:48:16
Rosie Duffield's views were well known within the Labour Party and outside when she stood for the third time and her majority increased from 1,836 to 8,653.
Yes Maddyfour I think I agree with you. I thought it was shocking of Starmer to suspend the whip for six months for the seven Labour MPs who voted according to their conscience concerning the cap on child benefit. It is blind allegiance to the Party beliefs which allows the growth of dictatorships.

Then every vote should be according to conscience?

eazybee

Rosie Duffield's views were well known within the Labour Party and outside when she stood for the third time and her majority increased from 1,836 to 8,653.
Yes Maddyfour I think I agree with you. I thought it was shocking of Starmer to suspend the whip for six months for the seven Labour MPs who voted according to their conscience concerning the cap on child benefit. It is blind allegiance to the Party beliefs which allows the growth of dictatorships.

eazybee 2024 election result
19,531votes
41.4%of vote
-7.2% Change in vote percentage since last election

members.parliament.uk/member/4616/electionresult

Wasn’t she known as the Labour party’s Dominic Cummings, regarding lockdown rules.

Read her letter yesterday agree with everything she said

Casdon what point are you trying to make? We had a very low turnout for the last election. RD got elected with a good majority.