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Anniversary of Israeli massacre

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maddyfour Sat 05-Oct-24 14:31:25

In two days time it will be the anniversary of the Israeli massacre where around 1200 people were murdered and around 300 people were taken hostage.
Today there is a big pro Palestine march him London. Would it have been more respectful and appropriate to have waited till next week or later in the month for this march to take place, especially since the first bombing of Gaza started on 13/10/23 and Israeli troops first entered Gaza on 27/10/23.

Oreo Sat 05-Oct-24 20:53:20

We lit a candle to remember the terrible deaths of the Israeli families and all the young people at the music festival and in memory of the murdered hostages and those still being held if still alive.Will keep the candle going all this week.🕯️

Rekarie Sat 05-Oct-24 21:11:50

Babs03, do you understand that Israel is surrounded by countries that wish to see the country totally obliterated? That they'd be happy if Jews were wiped off the face of earth?

I honestly despair at the reaction from people. Chanting and marching.

Since when do we support terrorism? How has that even happened.

Would you be happy if your relatives were being held hostsge?

Would you be happy if your grandchild comes home from school with his blazer covered in spittle?

No need to answer. I shall avoid these threads in future.

Rekarie Sat 05-Oct-24 21:12:32

Thank you, Oreo

Oreo Sat 05-Oct-24 21:27:18

Makes you wonder doesn’t it Rekarie ?
Dispiriting is the word, and I try not to get invested on SM threads too often on the subject, but sometimes I just have to!

paddyann54 Sat 05-Oct-24 21:56:12

We don’t support terrorism we do support a people who have been treated appallingly for decades by Israel ,I have nothing but sympathy for the loss of the victims of Oct 7th last year but equally I have sympathy for the horrors visited on the Palestinians for 60 +years before then and the genocide since .Netanyahu MUST be stopped before more innocents die.
This is not justice this is indeed driving Palestinians out of their homes their country.Wakeup and see the truth!

ronib Sat 05-Oct-24 21:58:45

I think it’s completely wrong to allow marches in London in support of Hezbollah. When I mentioned this to Mr Ronib he said it was important for people to have free speech. But is it? He said that it’s important not to suppress thoughts. I am a bit nonplussed.

Babs03 Sat 05-Oct-24 21:59:34

@Rekarie.
I understand all too well what you are saying.
And am offended that you think I support terrorism by taking part in a march against war. I also marched against war in Iraq. And will never support war as a solution over the possibility of peace.
You obviously feel victimised but I can assure you that being a person of colour who is Muslim is no walk in the park either.
With your child overhearing others say ‘the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.’
And my DH isn’t even a Muslim he is an atheist, can’t stand any religion after the horrors his family went through.
So don’t assume I don’t get what you are saying.

kircubbin2000 Sat 05-Oct-24 22:02:49

I don't think terrorists have respect.

Babs03 Sat 05-Oct-24 22:04:25

ronib

I think it’s completely wrong to allow marches in London in support of Hezbollah. When I mentioned this to Mr Ronib he said it was important for people to have free speech. But is it? He said that it’s important not to suppress thoughts. I am a bit nonplussed.

Well we could ban these marches, start a petition and see if we succeed, with government wanting to cut funds with
policing it could work. We could ban any kind of gathering in public against anything.
For certainly we can’t cherry pick, it would have to be a ban on all marches to be fair.
Which is exactly how it is in Russia and Iran.
Good company we’ll be keeping then.

Grammaretto Sat 05-Oct-24 22:09:08

All lives matter .

ronib Sat 05-Oct-24 22:11:13

Babs03 I am offended by posters out in London proclaiming love for recognised terrorists. It’s a step too far? Hezbelloh and Hamas are recognised by the Uk as proscribed terrorist organisations. I find this very confusing. Did anyone in London go on marches proclaiming love for Adolf Hitler?

Babs03 Sat 05-Oct-24 22:11:38

Grammaretto

All lives matter .

Thanks 🙏🏾

Smileless2012 Sat 05-Oct-24 22:13:26

Yes they do Grammaretto.

Babs is not supporting terrorism Rekarie.

Smileless2012 Sat 05-Oct-24 22:17:07

Who are these posters out in London proclaiming love for recognised terrorists ronib? Are you accusing GN posters of doing so? If so that is an outrageous accusation to make and should be withdrawn.

Babs03 Sat 05-Oct-24 22:17:21

ronib

Babs03 I am offended by posters out in London proclaiming love for recognised terrorists. It’s a step too far? Hezbelloh and Hamas are recognised by the Uk as proscribed terrorist organisations. I find this very confusing. Did anyone in London go on marches proclaiming love for Adolf Hitler?

The March I went on called for a ceasefire. It did not support Hamas or Hezbollah and the police were successful in rooting out any troublemakers.
People marched against the Vietnamese war but were not supporting communism, and people marched against the Iraq war but they were not supporting the despot Saddam. This is not something new and is not about people supporting anything other than an end to the bloodshed on all sides

ronib Sat 05-Oct-24 22:23:24

Smileless2012. I have no way of knowing if Gnet had demonstrated in London today under the banner of loving Hezbelloh. What are you suggesting?

ronib Sat 05-Oct-24 22:28:16

Posters as in placards ….

Babs03 Sat 05-Oct-24 22:32:28

@ronib
Nobody demonstrates under the banner of loving Hezbollah.
Perhaps you think our police force is useless?
Whenever there is a march they are quick to remove anyone who looks as if they are terrorist sympathisers and so could incite violence and those on the March would give them short shrift too. There are police officers utilising drones and helicopters to spot any wrongdoing.
Amazes me how people actually think our police force would allow this to happen.
Is a nonsense.

Smileless2012 Sat 05-Oct-24 22:36:41

Thank you for explaining that when you referred too posters, you meant placards ronib. I misunderstood and apologise.

ronib Sat 05-Oct-24 22:37:38

Babs03 The photos were there to see. Have a look?

ronib Sat 05-Oct-24 22:39:13

I think the Mayor of London is useless.

Babs03 Sat 05-Oct-24 22:41:26

ronib

I think the Mayor of London is useless.

The Mayor of London may well be useless but that has nothing to do with him being a Muslim as an earlier poster suggested.
And is up to the people of London to decide that at the next election.

Babs03 Sat 05-Oct-24 22:43:03

ronib

Babs03 The photos were there to see. Have a look?

If there were hateful placards inciting violence I have every faith the police apprehended the culprits, because if you saw them ronib so did they.

Allira Sat 05-Oct-24 22:45:11

ronib

Babs03 The photos were there to see. Have a look?

It's amazing that people in London were carrying placards today professing support for Hezbollah, claiming they are not terrorists, when in fact many Lebanese people themselves do not support them.

ronib Sat 05-Oct-24 22:45:27

Babs03. I didn’t say anything about The Mayor of London’s faith. I reiterate that I find it remarkable that placards in support of proscribed terrorist groups are allowed in the streets of London. My husband disagrees with me.