Sue Grey has resigned

I was also told recently by a financial expert that Keir Starmer may have benefited from a tax-exempt pension deal from the time when he was DPP. However, he criticised measures in the 2023 Budget which scrapped the £1m cap on lifetime pensions savings.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65037136

Disillusionment is setting in ☹

This isn’t new news Allira? Surely disillusionment is about things people didn’t know about before the election, not things that were already in the public domain?

IOMGran

Ladyleftfieldlover

This is all very Daily Mail ish!

Yup, all the Tory/Reform Grans are out in force. There are other Grans here too though thank goodness.

The Labour, and hard left grans, you mean defending their lord and master. For goodness sakes, we are allowed to disagree with you, even criticise the hypocrite we now have as a PM. after all you were all very good at chucking muck at the Tories. Who are after all not in Gov anymore, so why bring them into it.No it's tit for tat like schoolkids.

Casdon

This isn’t new news Allira? Surely disillusionment is about things people didn’t know about before the election, not things that were already in the public domain?

I didn't know that until I was told at the weekend.

So it was new news.

Freya5

IOMGran

Ladyleftfieldlover

This is all very Daily Mail ish!

Yup, all the Tory/Reform Grans are out in force. There are other Grans here too though thank goodness.

The Labour, and hard left grans, you mean defending their lord and master. For goodness sakes, we are allowed to disagree with you, even criticise the hypocrite we now have as a PM. after all you were all very good at chucking muck at the Tories. Who are after all not in Gov anymore, so why bring them into it.No it's tit for tat like schoolkids.

That's an uncalled for comment, IOMGran because if some Tory voters hadn't switched to vote for Labour they would not have won the election.

Lib Dems may have switched allegiance, too, as I did, to make sure the oh-so-decent Labour candidate here got voted in .

So many who voted Labour are becoming disillusioned as are the Trades Unions.

Allira

Casdon

This isn’t new news Allira? Surely disillusionment is about things people didn’t know about before the election, not things that were already in the public domain?

I didn't know that until I was told at the weekend.

So it was new news.

It’s odd that when you had left a role 10 years before, when you weren’t an MP, you are accused of hypocrisy 10 years later when you are, because you vote differently on something that was a benefit to you 10 years before. It’s reported on at the time so people are aware of it anyway, and then somebody brings it up as a criticism because it’s new to them. But Hey Ho, I just hope the next PM is a saint in every respect.

Is there an unwritten rule somewhere?

Mustn't mention anything untoward about the Labour Government on GN.

Must remember.

Allira

Is there an unwritten rule somewhere?

Mustn't mention anything untoward about the Labour Government on GN.

Must remember.

No rule, it’s just odd.

Ah well, makes a change of 14 years of criticism of the Tories I suppose.

Nothing odd about it.It’s just what’s happened.

Those of us who thought they should have a chance to bring some decency back into politics did not expect anything like this, so naturally we're disappointed.

Once Rachel and Keir push off we might be all right . All they need to reconsider is the Rwanda plan. Great deterrent.

Is it odd that Labour voters are commenting on the thread about the Tory leadership contest?

🤔

They treat us like we are idiots

Allira

Is it odd that Labour voters are commenting on the thread about the Tory leadership contest?

🤔

No, a good opposition is in everybody’s interest, surely? Perhaps the difference is that we aren’t too sensitive when people point out that our posts aren’t relevant though, which is what happens in most debates, parry and counter parry is the norm.

Yes, I agree about needing a strong opposition. But one that has the intelligence not to oppose just for the sake of opposing. Something that Badenoch will imo do.

heavenlyheath

They treat us like we are idiots

Those who believe the rubbish in the newspapers are idiots, it is simply Tory propaganda I hope Starmer holds the line and does what is needed to mend the economy.

That is not maintaining giveaways to Tory voters who have too much already.

Makes total sense to employ people in key positions which a much Higher salary than PM. PM has very low salary when compared to other people in such key positions in business or finance.

Is it odd that Labour voters are commenting on the thread about the Tory leadership contest

Why would you consider that odd Allira

Lots of Conservative voters comment on threads about Labour MPs. It’s fine🤷‍♀️

LizzieDrip

^Is it odd that Labour voters are commenting on the thread about the Tory leadership contest^

Why would you consider that odd Allira

Lots of Conservative voters comment on threads about Labour MPs. It’s fine🤷‍♀️

I’ve got no comment on the Tory leadership because it’s party members that will determine the new leader, the same group that elected Johnson and Truss.
They would elect Johnson again tomorrow, they hated the “moderate” Sunak chosen by MPs. Judging by the extreme anti Labour propaganda in the press there is absolutely no indication they will choose a moderate this time.

I started the thread on the Conservative leadership as I have a genuine interest in getting a good opposition, a lively working parliament. Simple as that. It's at a crucial point, today it gets cut to 3 contestants, tomorrow 2.

LizzieDrip

^Is it odd that Labour voters are commenting on the thread about the Tory leadership contest^

Why would you consider that odd Allira

Lots of Conservative voters comment on threads about Labour MPs. It’s fine🤷‍♀️

It was in response to a post commenting how odd it is that Tory (and Reform) voters are on the thread criticising the Labour Government.

In fact I don't think it's odd at all.

I agree with you - it's fine!

Wyllow3

I started the thread on the Conservative leadership as I have a genuine interest in getting a good opposition, a lively working parliament. Simple as that. It's at a crucial point, today it gets cut to 3 contestants, tomorrow 2.

That's absolutely fine.

I don't have a vote in the leadership contest, am not a member of any political party and am a tactical voter.

Fleurpepper

Makes total sense to employ people in key positions which a much Higher salary than PM. PM has very low salary when compared to other people in such key positions in business or finance.

But is it right that the PM's salary is relatively low?

Allira

Casdon

This isn’t new news Allira? Surely disillusionment is about things people didn’t know about before the election, not things that were already in the public domain?

I didn't know that until I was told at the weekend.

So it was new news.

I didn’t know either.Bet not many did.