Sara Sharif

She was a gorgeous looking babe, I'd love to see the death penalty brought in for ''parents'' like those 2 bags of filth.

Me too.
I think that's just the two of us, though.

This wasn't because of his religion. As with other horrifying cases of this nature it was because he was a totally evil, sick, twisted person who had hooked up with others either joining in or helping cover up the horrors that are coming out in court right now.

Re the Death penalty - its been discussed re other cases in GN. I cant agree. Too many risks. I think having to live out your whole life either in solitary or shunned or attacked by other prisoners is appropriate.

Well, the prison has a duty of care to protect their inmates, much as I'd wish otherwise.
Life sentence?
25 years, at most.

Wyllow3

This wasn't because of his religion. As with other horrifying cases of this nature it was because he was a totally evil, sick, twisted person who had hooked up with others either joining in or helping cover up the horrors that are coming out in court right now.

It is about that but it is also about their religion. They think it is acceptable for old men to marry little girls.

I don’t agree with the death penalty because I don’t believe the state have the right to take life.
However with these kind of evil, sick people, I would like them to go to prison for the rest of their lives with no possibility of parole. And no easy life either. Myra Hindley, another sick, evil murderer, was allowed to take a degree in prison and had many other privileges.
These people have murdered a little girl in the most horrendous way and deserve punishment.

The loss of freedom is punishment enough, so it's said.
I don't think, legally, a prisoner could be given a hard time, and I agree with that, strangely enough.

Lisaangel10

Wyllow3

This wasn't because of his religion. As with other horrifying cases of this nature it was because he was a totally evil, sick, twisted person who had hooked up with others either joining in or helping cover up the horrors that are coming out in court right now.

It is about that but it is also about their religion. They think it is acceptable for old men to marry little girls.

No, although it its true some follow this practice it is not accurate to say all do. Tarring all with the same brush is not acceptable, and most offensive to do so.

And this case is not about this: it's about the horrifying torture of an innocent, as I've said upthread. It was deemed no more acceptable in Pakistan than it was here.

Yes life should mean life although I don't know how that gets decided.

MissAdventure

Well, the prison has a duty of care to protect their inmates, much as I'd wish otherwise.
Life sentence?
25 years, at most.

Yes, no turning a blind eye now. Although I do know that is the right and proper thing, sometimes a taste of their own medicine might be the only thing these evil creatures understand.

I agree.
For them to live with constant fear would do me, although logically I know that's awful.
For a full life, too.

TheWeirdo

She was a gorgeous looking babe, I'd love to see the death penalty brought in for ''parents'' like those 2 bags of filth.

It wasn't the mother, it was the step-mother and uncle.

The mother lost custody.
The judge who awarded custody to the father should be brought to court and made to answer questions.

It wasn't the mother, it was the step-mother and uncle.
And father of course.

I watched something a while back, where a little girl was taken from her grandparents care and given back to her real mum and her boyfriend.

The granddad wrote to the judge, saying that he hoped she was comfortable in her decision, because he knew it was the wrong one.

Of course the little mite was abused to death, and he has received not even so much as an acknowledgement of his letter.

Watching him sob was one of the saddest things I've ever seen.

At the moment we only know the horrifying catalogue of Sara's injuries; I wonder how many of them were inflicted during the period she was 'home-schooled.'?
My belief, based on that photograph of an apparently cheerful, happy little girl, dressed and made-up as an adult, is that she was being groomed for the marriage market but until the evidence is heard from the three defendants this is only speculation.
I doubt whether all three will be given equally long sentences but they must all have known what was happening and who was perpetrating it. The stepmother certainly did, witness texts to her sister, so she is equally guilty.

How could such evil exist.?.

It was reported the neighbours heard the screams, if I was a neighbour I could not has stood by and done nothing, I would have broken the door down if needed.

What about the older brother?
Was he frightened , threatened, or did he accept this as the norm? I hope those other children can overcome their life in that house of horrors.

How could such evil exist.?.

In 21st century Britain?

Sadly, all too often it seems.
Why?

Overworked, inexperienced social workers?
Teachers frightened to report suspicions for whatever reason?
Home schooling? I'm sure very good in many cases but it needs more supervision as in some cases it is a cover-up for neglect and abuse and children are allowed to slip through the net.
Judges trying to be politically correct or persuaded by manipulative parents?

Whatever is wrong, perhaps all children should attend school. No-one should be afraid to voice their suspicions and no-one afraid to investigate, for the sake of vulnerable children.

I would lay part of the blame for this horrific murder on the Family Courts. You hear stories of the Court awarding custody to abusive men despite the mother being a good mother. These men appear to lie and manipulate and blame parental alienation by the mother on the child's unwillingness to visit the father.
The law should be changed to allow the Court records to be opened in cases like this.

David49

How could such evil exist.?.

It was reported the neighbours heard the screams, if I was a neighbour I could not has stood by and done nothing, I would have broken the door down if needed.

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I agree Family Courts seem to make some very wrong decisions Elusivebutterfly although the identity of the children should always be protected.

I do think when judgements are made that result in a child being moved from one home to another, which subsequently results in the death of that child, that the judge who made the judgment should be called to account.

We can't know without more information why the judge made the decision as to the fitness of the birth mother?

Of course we can’t Wyllow. Did I say we should? Family Court judgements are confidential.
However that does not in any way negate the fact that a judge who makes a judgment which has such catastrophic consequences should be called to account. Of course it would be confidential just as all Family Court judgments are confidential.

A child was tortured then murdered while two other adults in the house were aware, stood by and took no steps to prevent it. Those three adults are the ones responsible for the murder.

People do voice their suspicions, people do investigate, much time and money is spent, and they are fobbed off time and time again by manipulative parents and the mantra that the family bond must be supported above all else.

So easy to say what you would do when you are not there.