Its Keir Starmer, not Kier Starmer

loopyloo

I thought I heard somewhere that Cate had to start spelling it Kate to differentiate her initial from the Queen's.

Which Queen? Queen Caroline? I thought that our late Queen was called Elizabeth (Alexandra Mary)or Liz at a push. Am I missing something?

He was misnamed at birth.Keir Hardie will be spinning in his grave at how his labour party is performing not to mention the "sir" who is running it.Its no more labour than Thatchers government was .

I also found this!
Keir is a Village in Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland, UK. The village was the birthplace of Kirkpatrick Macmillan, the inventor of the bicycle. A plaque on his home, Courthill Smithy, commemorates this. He is buried in the parish church.

Apparently he hated his name in the early days! 😆

Mamie

escaped

Maybe more Germanic/Dutch then?

Scottish makes sense to me. Like the surname Weir.

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Oh lighten up Doodledog!
I wasn't going to trawl back over threads to see whether the word was must or should or whatever. It was just the message that came across to me.
My comment here was not snidey, I had no idea who made the post in question.

Freya5

Many people will not really care.

But some obviously do.😁

I’d say Be kind
but look at the mess that’s got us into, and it wouldn’t be reciprocated.

escaped

Maybe more Germanic/Dutch then?

Scottish makes sense to me. Like the surname Weir.

Always assumed Keir was named after the remarkable Keir Hardie
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keir_Hardie

Calendargirl

I find it more annoying that the Princess Of Wales is often called ‘Katherine’.

It’s Catherine with a C, not Katherine with a K.

Sometimes she is called "Kate Middleton" !!!

escaped

Oops
mustn't call them Labour

Please yourself what you call them.

I commented that there are those who just can't bring themselves to acknowledge that the Labour Party is now in government, so insist on calling them 'Labour'. It was just a comment, and at no point did I say that anyone 'must' do anything. If you must make snide comments, please don't twist people's words?

Maybe more Germanic/Dutch then?

escaped

I'm assuming that, because of the suffix -ier on words, which is often pronunced as -eer, our automatic spelling of his name defaults to Kier on hearing it.
I think the sound comes from Middle French, so you get cavalier, grenadier etc. and more modern words like cashier.

I read an interesting article about KS in a German newspaper recently, and they too obviously have problems.
Starmers Vorname wird »Kier« ausgesprochen. Starmer's name is pronounced Kier.

Except that in French the pronunciation of ier is more ee-ay (ay as in day). The origin of Keir is Gaelic and Scottish.

Oops
mustn't call them Labour

Mollygo

RosiesMaw2

Is this reallyworthy of a thread to itself?
It won’t be the first time there are spelling mistakes on GN and however annoying, it won’t be the last

Yes but you’re missing the point. It’s misnaming Starmer !!!

Many people will not really care.

I thought I heard somewhere that Cate had to start spelling it Kate to differentiate her initial from the Queen's.

The correct title should be 'the Reverend Keir Starmer' or Mr. Starmer, not Reverend Starmer, unless Rees-Mogg is being ironic. I can't believe he does not know.
But as Starmer loudly proclaims his atheism it is irrelevant.
(And his wife is not Lady Victoria, but Victoria, Lady Starmer, courtesy of her husband's title.

Why are posters so touchy about KS and his saintly crew? I read on here the other day we must call them Labour, but The Government!

pedantic as always. There are more important things to concern us than spelling

I'm assuming that, because of the suffix -ier on words, which is often pronunced as -eer, our automatic spelling of his name defaults to Kier on hearing it.
I think the sound comes from Middle French, so you get cavalier, grenadier etc. and more modern words like cashier.

I read an interesting article about KS in a German newspaper recently, and they too obviously have problems.
Starmers Vorname wird »Kier« ausgesprochen. Starmer's name is pronounced Kier.

Obviously following the rules of spelling.

Mollygo

RosiesMaw2

Is this reallyworthy of a thread to itself?
It won’t be the first time there are spelling mistakes on GN and however annoying, it won’t be the last

Yes but you’re missing the point. It’s misnaming Starmer !!!

Yes, he who must not be not be called names - ever !

RosiesMaw2

Is this reallyworthy of a thread to itself?
It won’t be the first time there are spelling mistakes on GN and however annoying, it won’t be the last

Yes but you’re missing the point. It’s misnaming Starmer !!!

He was named after Keir Hardie.

Wyllow3

No, it's not pedantic to spell well known names properly. It's due respect for each other.
I put it in news and politics because it recurs and has been in the past used as mockery.

I do hope you've never referred to Catherine as Kate then Wyllow3.
How is a simple misspelling of Keir as Kier mockery, you've lost me? And interestingly my computer keeps red underlining Keir but not Kier.