Tommy Robinson jailed for contempt of court

I’ve seen the cctv footage too, it’s the background that I don’t know.

Does this excuse Tommy Robinson?

Technically Robinson was up for contempt of court, but the contempt was for repeating allegations against a schoolboy, Jamal Hijazi, after those allegations were proved to be lies.

Robinson had made racist claims on Facebook that Hijazi attacked girls at the school. Mr Hijazi was then violently assaulted at Almondbury Community School in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire.

He then repeated the claims again in a film he made. Thats why he got the minimum sentence for contempt, two years.

I'm glad this terrorist is behind bars at last.

Primrose53

The CCTV shows the victim standing with his hands in his pockets. He definitely did not assault the MP. Witnesses have said the MP just punched him and knocked him over and continued kicking him whilst he was on the ground. That’s all on CCTV too.

I agree with you that the CCTV does seem to show an unprovoked attack. If that's the case of course he should be charged. Nevertheless, it's wise to be a little cautious. I expect we all remember the video of the police officer kicking the man at Manchester Airport and the initial kneejerk reaction. It's turned out that there's much more to the story.

Wyllow3

Does this excuse Tommy Robinson?

Technically Robinson was up for contempt of court, but the contempt was for repeating allegations against a schoolboy, Jamal Hijazi, after those allegations were proved to be lies.

Robinson had made racist claims on Facebook that Hijazi attacked girls at the school. Mr Hijazi was then violently assaulted at Almondbury Community School in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire.

He then repeated the claims again in a film he made. Thats why he got the minimum sentence for contempt, two years.

I'm glad this terrorist is behind bars at last.

I don't see what alternative there could have been in the TR case. He pleaded guilty, so the judge was hardly likely to dispute that or let him off because he was feeling kind.

He’s a fake
Why isn’t he called out on it?

His name might be a fake, but his actions over the years as a far right terrorist are anything but. (as in wiki article).

He's close to Andrew Tate, the violent misogynist.

That MP who beat up the man should definitely not be an MP. He should forfeit his job immediately. I don’t care what provocation he received, he is a violent man.

nanna8

That MP who beat up the man should definitely not be an MP. He should forfeit his job immediately. I don’t care what provocation he received, he is a violent man.

He does have the right not to be judged by a vigilante group who have only seen CCTV images.

If people want to discuss something completely different from Robinson, why not set up a thread?

Tommy Robinson; I’m struggling to understand. I know absolutely that he is a far right, vile thug who has committed horrible criminal offences and is now in prison for his latest crime.
What I don’t underestimate is why he is called a terrorist?
Can someone explain please?

Oh yes, I know he is horribly racist and a Holocaust denier too.

madalene

Tommy Robinson; I’m struggling to understand. I know absolutely that he is a far right, vile thug who has committed horrible criminal offences and is now in prison for his latest crime.
What I don’t underestimate is why he is called a terrorist?
Can someone explain please?

The terrorism charge is separate from the current reason for imprisonment.

My understanding is that he refused to let the police have access to his mobile phone when he left the country a few weeks ago and was charged under the Terrorism Act. I have no idea why the police wanted his phone.

He was arrested on Friday under the Anti-Terrorism act because of his history, and connections, and leadership role with groups that are classified in the UK as "Extreme Right Wing Terrorism". (other wise the arrest presumably would have been contempt of court)

isc.independent.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Government-Response-to-the-‘Extreme-Right-Wing-Terrorism-Report.pdf

Wyllow3

He was arrested on Friday under the Anti-Terrorism act because of his history, and connections, and leadership role with groups that are classified in the UK as "Extreme Right Wing Terrorism". (other wise the arrest presumably would have been contempt of court)

isc.independent.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Government-Response-to-the-‘Extreme-Right-Wing-Terrorism-Report.pdf

There are two separate charges:

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/oct/25/tommy-robinson-held-in-custody-ahead-of-far-right-march-in-london

Thank you for that info.

I don’t know or want to know much about Tommy Robinson , he sounds like a shocker, but a jail sentence? Seriously ? Why don’t they fine the backside off him and give him community service? Strange decision.

nanna8

I don’t know or want to know much about Tommy Robinson , he sounds like a shocker, but a jail sentence? Seriously ? Why don’t they fine the backside off him and give him community service? Strange decision.

Because it was contempt of court. He made false allegations about a young Syrian refugee, who sued him for libel and was awarded £100,000. TR was ordered not to repeat the allegations, but he deliberately did repeat them. In other words, he took no notice of the court's injunction, which led to abuse directed at the boy and his family, who had to leave their home. It had already gone beyond the fine stage.

Tommy Robinson was trying to make a martyr of himself, claiming that he has the right to free speech, which is allegedly being denied him.

Primrose53

Sitting with popcorn just waiting to see whether the Labour MP thug gets jailed. He really should be.

There are sentencing guidelines, people aren’t sentenced to satisfy popular opinion. If it is a first offence of either ABH or GBH he may get a fine and/or a community order. If not a first offence there may be jail time according to the severity of the assault.

growstuff

nanna8

I don’t know or want to know much about Tommy Robinson , he sounds like a shocker, but a jail sentence? Seriously ? Why don’t they fine the backside off him and give him community service? Strange decision.

Because it was contempt of court. He made false allegations about a young Syrian refugee, who sued him for libel and was awarded £100,000. TR was ordered not to repeat the allegations, but he deliberately did repeat them. In other words, he took no notice of the court's injunction, which led to abuse directed at the boy and his family, who had to leave their home. It had already gone beyond the fine stage.

He made a video ‘Silenced’ in which the allegation about the Syrian was repeated, the video is attached to his X account and he has refused to take it down. He has also published a fake photo of a Muslim gang supposedly engaging in violence and was fined for that. After these racially motivated actions he has called himself a journalist. It is futile fining him because his supporters just crowd fund to pay his legal costs, he lives in Spain because he has an Irish passport so community service would not be appropriate. He thinks he is above the law and his supporters think the same.

Yes, I am intrigued as to how he has the support of anyone.
He has convictions for fraud, an assault ( kicking the head) of an off duty police officer who intervened in a dispute with his wife, has been declared bankruptcy owing Inland Revenue a great deal of money..and does not attend court when required.
I understand that there are some doubts, also, about the legitimacy of his passport. He is a holocaust denier.
However, all is forgiven, it seems, by some people if he invents facts villifying a Syrian.
I am astonished that anyone can support this man. Can any of his friends here explain why?

Oreo

I wonder why he doesn’t use his own name, which is better than Tommy Robinson.🤔

The name 'Tommy Robinson' originated in the war, when it was a general term for all British soldiers. He sees himself as standing up for British interests, even though he's Irish.

I think those who support Stephen - will give him his real name - are those who also believe that there is no freedom of speech - an oft repeated lie - which basically equates with the law getting in the way of their hate speech which can and does incite violence.
However, there are those who are not as hard core as Stephen’s closest fans but have similar views about freedom of speech, and wrap their racism up in concern about immigration which generally ends up with Islamophobic hate speech which resulted in the riots earlier this year.

I dont support him strangely enough but have ongoing concerns about freedom of speech. I to be honest couldnt care less if you decide that makes me far right ( centre left all my life) those words have no meaning anymore.

When it comes to freedom of speech would those who feel it is being eroded want everyone to have the freedom to speak?
I mean would they feel happy if alongside those who peddle Islamophobia or antisemitism, an Islamic fundamentalist stood up and spouted extreme views??
If we believe all should have freedom of speech that is what it boils down to.
And as for those who just want to say mildly racist or sexist stuff etc., they do have the freedom to say what they want but just don’t want to be criticised for it, which isn’t freedom of speech at all because if they want to indulge in this then others are free to shoot them down in flames.
Nobody has the right or freedom to just say whatever they want whenever they want, that doesn’t exist, because we live in a society where there are other people, not just ourselves living in our own little echo chambers.