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NanaTuesday Wed 06-Nov-24 06:57:13

Oh dear the crazy Americans seem to of voted in his favour yet again . A former president now with a criminal background . Could be reelected 50% to Kamala’s 49%
Not quite there yet, however . Get ready for yet more of his manic speeches
Cannot wait for his bat crazy eating garbage orange faced triumphant speech , he’s expected on stage very soon .

LizzieDrip Thu 07-Nov-24 08:12:11

escaped perhaps it’s a double entendre by Macronsmile

escaped Thu 07-Nov-24 08:06:31

LizzieDrip

I love Macron’s congratulatory tweet to Trump:

“Congratulations, President @realDonaldTrump. Ready to work together as we did for four years. With your convictions and mine. With respect and ambition. For more peace and prosperity.”

Clever use of the word ‘convictions’ there! Macron speaks perfect English so it clearly wasn’t something ‘lost in translation’.

Tres bien Macron!

The above referred to this quote.

escaped Thu 07-Nov-24 08:05:59

Yes, it's funny, but isn't it actually the same word in French, so no translation as such?
It means, quelqu'un qui croit fermement à la vérité de ce qu'il pense. Someone who believes strongly in the truth of his thinking. Seems logical.
Macron wouldn't want to associate himself with guilt of the other sort!

ronib Thu 07-Nov-24 07:16:11

Trump won on the back of his defiance after the failed assassination attempt not so long ago. The man was remarkable in the circumstances. The photo opportunity was iconic.

NanaTuesday Wed 06-Nov-24 23:28:05

GrannyGravy13

The electorate have had their say, it is their decision.

Whether or not GN members agree with them is not going to change anything.

Name calling is not the answer, whatever side of the pond it occurs.

For what it’s worth I think Donald Trump won this election the day he was shot at the rally.

Grannygravy13
It’s crazy but I think entirely possible- he strutted around like a prize bull afterwards , enjoying his moment. A stupendous victorious moment at that 🤪

LizzieDrip Wed 06-Nov-24 23:21:10

I love Macron’s congratulatory tweet to Trump:

“Congratulations, President @realDonaldTrump. Ready to work together as we did for four years. With your convictions and mine. With respect and ambition. For more peace and prosperity.”

Clever use of the word ‘convictions’ there! Macron speaks perfect English so it clearly wasn’t something ‘lost in translation’.

Tres bien Macron!

NanaTuesday Wed 06-Nov-24 23:17:46

mae13

Congratulations Elon Musk - you finally managed to buy The White House........

Well said that woman
Mai3

NanaTuesday Wed 06-Nov-24 23:15:36

tanith

Listening to Trump rambling on talking about himself just now only confirms my concern for the USA and the World. I wish you well America with your choice.

Omg Tanith his whole family on that stage …..🙄 And his mammoth rambling about a rocket & his good friend Elon ….i mean let’s just say the US has a demented power crazy President elect , who also just happens to be best friends with THE richest man in the world . That alone can only spell trouble !
All the money 💰 thrown at the electioneering , money being thrown at voters … a true true fai campaign in every way 🤫

Wyllow3 Wed 06-Nov-24 23:13:01

Namsnanny

Yes Bill Gates gave money to KH but I look forward to the day when Elon Musk does what Bill and Melinda Gates do:

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is a private philanthropic foundation that supports a variety of charities and causes, including:
Global health
The foundation works to improve health in developing countries and to eliminate neglected tropical diseases.
Education
The foundation works to ensure that all people have access to the opportunities they need to succeed in school and life.
Digital financial tools
The foundation works to improve access to digital financial tools.
Women's leadership
The foundation supports women's leadership through the Co-Impact Gender Fund.
Tribal communities
The foundation supports the health and nutrition of tribal communities in India through Anamaya.
Poverty in the United States
The foundation supports people living in poverty in the United States through Blue Meridian Partners.
Agricultural science
The foundation partners with the Rockefeller Foundation to enhance agricultural science and small-farm productivity in Africa.
Cashew industry
The foundation donated $25 million to the Deutsche Gesellschaft für Technische Zusammenarbeit (GTZ) to help develop Africa's cashew industry.
The foundation was established in 2000 when the William H. Gates Foundation merged with two other Gates foundations. The foundation's co-chairs are Bill Gates and Melinda French Gates, and its CEO is Mark Suzman.
The foundation also supports organizations and projects through Gates Philanthropy Partners. Some of these organizations and projects include:
UNICEF
OneGoal
SEWA Bharat
BRAC USA
GAVI, the Vaccine Alliance
Washington University in St. Louis

Dickens Wed 06-Nov-24 23:07:52

Primrose53

The people of America voted in their millions and the majority voted for Trump. End of.

... end of what?

Norah Wed 06-Nov-24 22:50:55

Primrose53

The people of America voted in their millions and the majority voted for Trump. End of.

It seems a fairly even vote - some people must like his policies.

Allira Wed 06-Nov-24 22:44:17

Primrose53

The people of America voted in their millions and the majority voted for Trump. End of.

Or beginning of Nightmare on Pennsylvania Avenue.

Primrose53 Wed 06-Nov-24 22:41:19

The people of America voted in their millions and the majority voted for Trump. End of.

MayBee70 Wed 06-Nov-24 20:52:09

Cossy

Oreo

If we hadn’t left the EU the ones who voted may have felt it wasn’t their country, see how illogical that is?

It’s not illogical at all!

I feel this country changed forever when the Brexit vote was won on the back of lies, covert racism and misinformation.

I’m simply not proud to be British when I hear how some of my fellow Brits speak about those of different nationalities and somehow believe being white British makes them somehow superior.

People who describe fellow humans as “illegals”, who make assumptions about people’s criminal intent and tar whole cohorts as the same, ie All Moslems are ISIS, etc etc. Shameful!

It empowered many people. But not in a good way. As has happened in America today.

fancythat Wed 06-Nov-24 20:49:16

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cev90d7wkk0o

What Trump says he will do.

fancythat Wed 06-Nov-24 20:47:55

petra

So much hand wringing and angst when it will all be forgotten by the weekend 🤷‍♀️

I very much doubt it.

I feel anti-Brexit like vibes from some.

Dickens Wed 06-Nov-24 19:34:38

Oreo

Cossy do you realise how low the racism is here compared with many countries in Europe?

You are right.

Last year euronews talked about a report by an European agency that highlighted 'shameful' levels of racism in Europe.

Many member-states were indicted - including the ones we frequently talk about as being more-equal and egalitarian societies.

The worst 'results' of the survey / report were in Austria and Germany. Where far-right parties surged in the polls.

... and I believe that's almost exactly what's happening here.

Namsnanny Wed 06-Nov-24 19:14:29

Wyllow3

Oldbat1

I just cant believe ANYONE cellebrating the disaster of Trump. He will now be able to cancel himself from being a convicted felon for starters. I really feel sickened.

Memories seem short what Trump was like first time round...rule by tweet at all hours of the night...drinking bleach...attempts to cheat by requesting votes in Georgia, never mind death by insurrection at the Capitol, where he was prepared to throw Pence under a bus because Pence dared to disagree.
He's perfectly capable of repeating his petty jealousies and those crazy thoughts - with more power than ever, the backing of Musk, who controls X.

He doesn't believe in Climate Change - he will be a dictator and they are very dangerous (from whatever political background)
He's not going to touch gun control, his answer to school shootings and even his own attempted assassination means "bring on more guns".

I'm shocked by the morality of Musk spending well over 75 million dollars to help win an election, when people cant get basic medical care.

Wyllow ...
I'm shocked by the morality of Musk spending well over 75 million dollars to help win an election, when people cant get basic medical care^

Of course Bill Gates did exactly the same for the KH campaign.
To the tune of 50 million.
If she had won would his money be given to the people for medical care? No of course not, it was given to support the campaign.
As is the case in all campaigns.

Dickens Wed 06-Nov-24 19:09:18

petra

So much hand wringing and angst when it will all be forgotten by the weekend 🤷‍♀️

... yeah, I guess you're right. Just like sports fans who mull over the latest game their team won or lost - and mostly forgotten about when they go back to work on Monday. Kind of thing? hmm

You do realise that Trump first has to be sworn-in, and that his victory is quite literally just the very beginning of a process, a reign, that is going to affect a lot of American's lives; not only that but it will also affect the balance of power in the world which is quite important to a whole lot of people in - well, in the world, in fact?

Its not unusual to analyse major world events, for that very reason. Though obviously, you see it differently.

Oreo Wed 06-Nov-24 19:05:49

I don’t think everyone realises how liberal and overall non racist the UK is in their determination to wear a hair shirt.

Oreo Wed 06-Nov-24 19:03:46

What country has literally no racism at all?

Cossy Wed 06-Nov-24 19:01:38

Oreo

Cossy do you realise how low the racism is here compared with many countries in Europe?

That doesn’t make it ok?

Because other countries are more racist than us doesn’t affect me in the slightest.

It’s not a race to the bottom!

Fleurpepper Wed 06-Nov-24 19:00:14

Cossy

Fleurpepper

This clip is just terrifying- how will this 'purge' take place. Here is a link to his rally speech in Pennsylvania where he says there will be a truly nast purge.

x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1840526130031317329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1840526130031317329%7Ctwgr%5Ed2df28e8a08764263ff9ddd736a9664fd3acb271%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thelondoneconomic.com%2Fnews%2Fdonald-trump-suggests-purge-style-day-to-end-crime-across-the-us-383492%2F

The USA is heavily reliant on cheap immigrant labour, in so so many sectors.

They are indeed, that’s the irony. They always have been! When we lived in California back in the mid 70’s almost all domestic staff, care workers, Road sweepers etc were either Latino or Mexican.

We spent time in Steamboat Colorado about 20 years ago. The then Maire and his friends were congratulating themselves on getting rid of all 'illegal hispanics'- and then the ski season started. There was no-one to clean the hôtels and condos, no-one to work the lifts or prepare the pistes, no-one to work in restaurants, etc, etc, and the season was a disaster. The locals didn't want those jobs!

Rings a bell?

Oreo Wed 06-Nov-24 18:58:26

Fleurpepper

Exactly, 8 years ago. Demographics have changed, young people have realised how nonsensical it was to not vote, and the figures are clear re the massive damage. With the vast majority now clearly saying that Brexit has been very damaging, democracy requires for those majority opinions to be respected, and without lies or outside interference.

There’s no going back now Fleurpepper

Oreo Wed 06-Nov-24 18:57:25

Cossy do you realise how low the racism is here compared with many countries in Europe?