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The Guardian offers counselling to staff after ‘upsetting’ Trump election result!

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 07-Nov-24 16:16:43

The Guardian is offering counselling to staff as it vowed to support its workforce after Donald Trump’s “upsetting” US election victory this week.

In an email to staff, The Guardian’s editor Katharine Viner said the election had “exposed alarming fault lines on many fronts” and urged journalists based in the UK to contact colleagues in the US “to offer your support”.

I’m glad I don’t give The Guardian any of my money if they waste it to coddle employees in this way!

undines Fri 08-Nov-24 12:08:11

Trump doesn't mind if journalists get shot
Wes Streeting wants to push Jan Moir under a train...

All tarred with the same brush.

I would just say that remarks on here about censorship are very one-sided. Since the 'riots' recently, people were put in prison for tweets, causing others to be afraid of what they say, effectively censorship/self-censorship. It seems the only views you're allowed to express are 'left' - dare to post 'right' wing views and you're in danger. During the unrest following the dreadful murder of those poor little girls, someone posted a false account of a Muslim woman having had acid thrown in her face. How inflammatory is that! - but was he put in prison? No! Just a little one-sided, hey?
(Sorry can't remember who, look it up or disbelieve, at will)

WellsRose Fri 08-Nov-24 12:08:04

Oreo

I don’t think I’ve ever read so many dramaqueen statements before on any thread on any forum.
Will you listen to yourselves! It’s the sort of thing you expect from teenagers.
The sky won’t fall in, Trump won’t be executing journalists and sheep may safely graze.There won’t be a mass exodus of any professionals either.

And that is really rude and personal. Just because you don't agree with something, doesn't mean you can talk to us like that.

Wyllow3 Fri 08-Nov-24 12:07:23

So various predictable news sources then go and make

if you want to talk about it, your manager and members of the leadership team are all available,' staff are told

into "therapy", gets seized upon tho "counselling and therpy\" was not in the Guardians email -

and same old same old politicking by misrepresenting what has actually been said.

Cossy Fri 08-Nov-24 12:04:37

undines

Journalists having counselling because they cannot cope with democracy! Wokery at its best!

Please note, much of what we know about Trump is media spin. The Bidens also have been accused of crimes, but less has been said about this. I understand Kamala Harris has some questionable activity in her past. I believe they are all corrupt. I temporarily feel just a little glee at the woke, transgender-promoting, globalist-promoting, self-righteous, dogmatic noses put out of joint. But do I trust Trump? Or Musk?? Absolutely NOT.

Sorry to say it, but I find your remark tasteless and a tad offensive!

What “we” know of Trump has been witnessed by many of us, and many of us have good friends and family living across the USA.

Oreo Fri 08-Nov-24 12:03:49

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WellsRose Fri 08-Nov-24 12:02:57

GrannyGravy13

This story regarding The Guardian offering journalists therapy due to POTUS Trumps re-election is covered by many other media/press outlets not just The Telegraph.

Calling the OP goady is not in the spirit of GN, when it is just highlighting an item which is in the MSM.

What is the spirit of Gransnet? It seems really unpleasant these days.

Wyllow3 Fri 08-Nov-24 12:02:21

The email that sparked this thread wasn't in the main about journalists being offered this support:tho it was headlined in the thread title, but even in the O/P the only quote was

"Katharine Viner said the election had “exposed alarming fault lines on many fronts” and urged journalists based in the UK to contact colleagues in the US “to offer your support.

In fact - and I quote GB news here - Guardian staff werent offered "therapy"

but merely

if you want to talk about it, your manager and members of the leadership team are all available,' staff are told

undines Fri 08-Nov-24 12:00:53

Journalists having counselling because they cannot cope with democracy! Wokery at its best!

Please note, much of what we know about Trump is media spin. The Bidens also have been accused of crimes, but less has been said about this. I understand Kamala Harris has some questionable activity in her past. I believe they are all corrupt. I temporarily feel just a little glee at the woke, transgender-promoting, globalist-promoting, self-righteous, dogmatic noses put out of joint. But do I trust Trump? Or Musk?? Absolutely NOT.

WellsRose Fri 08-Nov-24 12:00:25

GrannyGravy13

The sky didn’t fall in during POTUS Trumps last four years in power.

If the Democrats had put forward a better candidate at the beginning of the election process rather than go with POTUS Biden, in all probability they would not be facing four more years of DT.

The Capitol riots hadn't happened in 2016. People died during that. It makes Trump seem far more dangerous.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 08-Nov-24 11:59:21

This story regarding The Guardian offering journalists therapy due to POTUS Trumps re-election is covered by many other media/press outlets not just The Telegraph.

Calling the OP goady is not in the spirit of GN, when it is just highlighting an item which is in the MSM.

Cossy Fri 08-Nov-24 11:58:15

GrannyGravy13

The sky didn’t fall in during POTUS Trumps last four years in power.

If the Democrats had put forward a better candidate at the beginning of the election process rather than go with POTUS Biden, in all probability they would not be facing four more years of DT.

The sky may not have fallen in, but plenty of damage was done and will be done again.

I wouldn’t wish to be a young women the states already outlawing abortion (for any reason)

I wouldn’t want to be a judge or journalist.

California are already rushing to put some law state powers in place fearing Trumps planned attacks on what he considers “weak, leftie, woke liberals” , things we might just consider basic human rights.

Despite 14 years of Tory rule, we are fortunate to retain good employment rights, fair abortion rules and great hate crime laws, the USA already has none of these in some states.

Frenchgalinspain Fri 08-Nov-24 11:57:04

Frenchgalinspain

growstuff

There's more to this than just upsetting journalists.

Trump has called journalists 'enemies of the people' and has dismissed legitimate journalism as 'fake news'. He has threatened to seize emails and phone records. He has said "We’re going to come after people in the media”.

Who knows what that kind of inflammatory language might lead to? We all know there are some loonies around who will follow through. There is anecdotal evidence that some journalists in the US have already been physically assaulted.

This is absolutely insanity and totally spooky for journalists.

This is truly a disasterous situation ..

Imagine ? A dictator going to kill journalists and leave children fatherless or motherless ..

Very very very awful 4 years ahead.

We are going to definitely see a numerous amount of "expats and journalists and actors / actresses / vocalists" leaving the Usa for Spain / Portugal / Amsterdam / Switzerland / Ireland etcetra.

TheWeirdo Fri 08-Nov-24 11:54:26

I can't abide that vile bag if turd Trumpy boy but I don't exactly need counselling because he's won again!

And thankfully I never read The Guardian either!

Cossy Fri 08-Nov-24 11:53:34

WellsRose

This article and all the others like it don't mention that most organisations offer counselling including newspaper organisations so it's not balanced reporting. It's just trying to get people riled up and it's worked judging by this thread.

Indeed!

GrannyGravy13 Fri 08-Nov-24 11:53:23

The sky didn’t fall in during POTUS Trumps last four years in power.

If the Democrats had put forward a better candidate at the beginning of the election process rather than go with POTUS Biden, in all probability they would not be facing four more years of DT.

WellsRose Fri 08-Nov-24 11:53:15

How? Where is the threat?

Crossstitchfan Fri 08-Nov-24 11:52:51

GrannyGravy13

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Students at Georgetown University’s McCourt School of Public Policy were reportedly told this week that they could play with Lego, colouring books, and have milk and cookies in “self-care suites” following the result.

Jeepers.

Flipping heck!

Fried Green Tomatoes - I hope you are kidding!

Frenchgalinspain Fri 08-Nov-24 11:52:29

growstuff

There's more to this than just upsetting journalists.

Trump has called journalists 'enemies of the people' and has dismissed legitimate journalism as 'fake news'. He has threatened to seize emails and phone records. He has said "We’re going to come after people in the media”.

Who knows what that kind of inflammatory language might lead to? We all know there are some loonies around who will follow through. There is anecdotal evidence that some journalists in the US have already been physically assaulted.

This is absolutely insanity and totally spooky for journalists.

This is truly a disasterous situation ..

Imagine ? A dictator going to kill journalists and leave children fatherless or motherless ..

Very very very awful 4 years ahead.

Cossy Fri 08-Nov-24 11:51:54

keepingquiet

If President Trumpmusk does what he says he will we will all need counselling!

I think some will need a damn site more than counselling!

Cossy Fri 08-Nov-24 11:50:48

growstuff

"Earlier this week, Trump told a crowd in Pennsylvania that he wouldn’t mind if journalists got shot."

edition.cnn.com/2024/11/07/media/trump-news-media-press-freedom-threats/index.html

It only takes one loony to listen to the stuff he's come out with and follow up on it.

Absolutely!

meddijess Fri 08-Nov-24 11:49:44

growstuff

spottybook

Nobody offered me counselling when labour got in

Have you been physically threatened for your views or challenging opinions?

Your comment could be seen as quite treatening and upsetting! I do hope that spottybook doesn't need counselling after receiving that!

Maremia Fri 08-Nov-24 11:47:04

flowers to all of you/us, who have found offence in this and similat threads

Maremia Fri 08-Nov-24 11:44:42

'nonsense' that this could be classed as a 'goady' post, or 'nonsense' that the Poster is new to Gransnet?

Annewilko Fri 08-Nov-24 11:43:25

It tells us everything about some of the people on here. Who would be so self centred as to dismiss your experience and feelings. flowers

pbah Fri 08-Nov-24 11:43:04

We can start our own support group!