Mmmmm Don’t think Trump and I are on the page with Policies

Britain has been in decline as a world power since Suez and it is now seriously at risk of economic decline given Brexit and a more protectionist environment threatened by the US with counter protection from the EU and China. I doubt any British government's (Tory or Labour) ability to grow the economy and productivity so the tax take to fund the NHS and welfare state, defence, schools, etc. will fail to keep up with the costs.

The combination of both would seriously affect any country, even those with an excellent performing economy.

For an economy that has been so weakened by a combination of Covid, a Tory Government that bled it dry, and huge effect from a disastrous decision as Brexit has proven to be - this new set back with 20% tariffs is nothing short of diabolically bad.

A special relationship with 20% tariffs- estimated loss to UK about 22 billion in short term. Added to the many billions lost to EU exports, something like 33 billion since 2016. Those sums are humongous. Anyone who can just wave them away as inconsequetial for the UK, really need to seriously rethink.

Users are falling though, according to the link I posted.

‘Data from Similarweb shows active daily users in the UK have dropped from 8mn a year ago to only around 5.6mn now, with more than a third of that fall coming since the summer riots. The same thing is happening elsewhere, and not just in places where the platform has been banned, such as Brazil. Over the same 16-month period, X’s active users in the US have fallen by about a fifth.”

That also aligns with X’s own reporting on its EU user base.

As part of its EU reporting obligations, X needs to provide regular updates on its EU user base, and how many active users it’s serving in the region. In its most recent report, covering the first six months of 2024, X reported a 5% decline in EU users.’

We will see, but if the fall in use continues of users’ own volition because people move on to new platforms, it won’t need to be controlled anyway.

Casdon

Why do you think it will never happen Freya5? When advertisers pull out of social media sites it usually signals the beginning of the end, and over the years a number have already folded.
X is also haemorrhaging users, the more Musk tries to influence people the more they resist.
www.socialmediatoday.com/news/x-formerly-twitter-losing-users-in-the-us-and-uk/727842/
There may be a way back, what do you think that is?

Actually I don't know. I don't think they're hemorrhaging users, people's use of social media changes constantly, Face book has gone through the same, without threats from EU regarding this media, which can be just as toxic. I don't use X. To threaten to block it because they don't like the owner, well I've already said what I think.

Who has said they don’t agree with anything Trump has said he will do JenniferEccles? Surely the rational person takes a balanced view. Saying you don’t agree with him on most issues is not the same as disagreeing with everything.

I share Wyllow's disquiet about the politicisation of the judiciary and the civil service.
For all of their faults, both of these ( very important) establishments here are impartial, and take a certain pride in being equally helpful and exasperating, in turn, to whomever is in government at no 10.
I prefer my court system to be unmoved by bribes and/or threats, whether from miscreants or the current power holders.

JenniferEccles

To those of you who say you don’t agree with Trump about anything I would like to ask if you disagree with his pledge to prevent men competing in women’s sport?

The same people who choose to ignore the fact that it was Elon Musk who stepped in and offered SpaceX satellites to Ukraine when Russia knocked the Ukrainian internet/ communication system out.

Freya5

Cossy

biglouis

Trump and I are on the same page with regard to:-

Putting your own country first and restrictin the amount of money flowing out to third world causes.

Restricting immigration and being hard on those who enter illegally.

Being “hard” on those who enter by illegal means.

Could you just outline to us what legal means Asylum Seekers can enter the UK in order to claim Asylum?

In particular from countries like Syria and Afghanistan ?

There are legal ways to come from both of those countries, 4 ways in fact. Easily looked up. Those that have the money just jump the queue, from a non war torn country, the EU.

The legal ways are severely limited, and no substitute for 'The right to seek asylum'.
The resettlement scheme only applies to Afghans who have worked for the UK government,
Syrians cannot apply for asylum unless they are already in the UK. Their is no visa for asylum seekers.
Also, according to international law, there is no such thing as an illegal asylum seeker and they cannot be penalised for entering a country irregularly.

Over many decades we constantly hear senior politicians talking about our ‘special relationship’ with the USA. I wonder if their politicians and population even know about this very special relationship we share. I rather think not.
As for Trump. I don’t follow his every word but generally speaking his behaviour is disconcerting and can only hope he has and keeps, more sensible and intelligent people round him to rein him back from making potentially dangerous decisions.

To those of you who say you don’t agree with Trump about anything I would like to ask if you disagree with his pledge to prevent men competing in women’s sport?

^ We don’t have a special relationship. At least we think we do but America thinks otherwise.

Well that’s the truth, but politicians trot it out ad nauseam, backed up by endless posts in the media.

Even so, spurious Special relationships don’t usually involve being two faced about what you say about anyone involved in it.

Mollygo

Cossy

No, but those who feel this is a foreign election and nothing to do with us need to look again and realise much of what Trump proposes will have negative effects on us all

I agree, and we won’t be helped by the contributions made by Starmer and Lammy and the actions of some Labour supporters, when he’s looking the supposed ^Special Relationship^

We don’t have a special relationship. At least we think we do but America thinks otherwise. It was pointed out on TRIP’s that America has a ‘special relationship’ with several countries and were no more ‘special’ than the other ones.

Casdon

Why do you think it will never happen Freya5? When advertisers pull out of social media sites it usually signals the beginning of the end, and over the years a number have already folded.
X is also haemorrhaging users, the more Musk tries to influence people the more they resist.
www.socialmediatoday.com/news/x-formerly-twitter-losing-users-in-the-us-and-uk/727842/
There may be a way back, what do you think that is?

Very glad to read your posts, Casdon: yes, the best way is to pull advertising and stop using. We need effective alternative platforms very badly.

I don't know the law well as regards pulling individual posts, ie those which deliberately and openly advocate violence ie clearly break UK law

Why do you think it will never happen Freya5? When advertisers pull out of social media sites it usually signals the beginning of the end, and over the years a number have already folded.
X is also haemorrhaging users, the more Musk tries to influence people the more they resist.
www.socialmediatoday.com/news/x-formerly-twitter-losing-users-in-the-us-and-uk/727842/
There may be a way back, what do you think that is?

Casdon

I think Europe has the cards as far as X is concerned.
www.euronews.com/next/2024/10/01/x-has-lost-75-of-its-value-since-elon-musk-took-over
Pulling out of NATO is an empty threat by Vance, it’s just posturing in my view - but actually there doesn’t need to be a formal European restriction on the use of X, it just needs individual advertisers and members of the public to vote with their feet and stop using it.

That will never happen. The EU is becoming a totalitarian conglomerate, that threatens freedom of speech for millions. Unless, like starmer , they're going to put everyone in prison. Then who will be the facists??

I think Europe has the cards as far as X is concerned.
www.euronews.com/next/2024/10/01/x-has-lost-75-of-its-value-since-elon-musk-took-over
Pulling out of NATO is an empty threat by Vance, it’s just posturing in my view - but actually there doesn’t need to be a formal European restriction on the use of X, it just needs individual advertisers and members of the public to vote with their feet and stop using it.

Whitewavemark2

I notice that Vance has threatened that the USA will drop support for NATO if countries in Europe try to regulate Musk’s platforms like X.

And so it starts.

We cant let them control us like that, tho I don't know how.

Fleurpepper I'm referring to the article - all the info nicely collated about what may happen...
If you have been following USA politics more than just a little, you will have read all this info previously.
None of that is new - and it was the article I was referring to.

I suppose Trump himself isn't entirely new either this time round.

Babs03

There is no page Trump and I would be on with regard to policies, or with regard to anything else.

Totally agree with you .. Nor Vance ..

Fleurpepper

how can one even begin to respond to

THAT! wow.

sorry, posts crossed. That was to Biglouis.

Somebody on another thread.

GrannyGravy13

As people like facts, this is Nigel Farage’s constituency boundary.

As you can see Frinton is definitely within it.

Who said it wasn’t?

Syracute

Your views are so dangerous and frightening that it really makes you no different than a German in Hitler’s time .

Sorry , my comment was to biglouis .

Your views are so dangerous and frightening that it really makes you no different than a German in Hitler’s time .