“Dog-free zones in Wales”

I walk almost every day in a large park where lots of dogs are off the lead for most of the year (baby deer season excepted) and have hardly ever had one jump up at me. So I don’t understand why some people evidently find it such a problem.
Do they carry sausages in their pockets, or what?

It seems it was what came out of a focus group, a comment by one person so unlikely to become law but given the wokery bandwagon who knows.More tinkering with deckchairs.
There’s a case to be made for dogs not to be in city centres or even busy town centres but not the countryside.I do sometimes feel sorry for dogs being dragged around shops and cafes when they could have been happily at home asleep.

Oreo

Or, since we don’t live in an Islamic state, people of all faiths and none have to accept that dogs are a part of life here.They don’t need to pat them on the head.

Just what I was going to say.

IMO this is the sort of bending-over-backwards measure that will IMO drive a number of people to vote Reform.

If the US election wasn’t a lesson in what is likely to drive people to the right, I don’t know what was.

Oreo

Or, since we don’t live in an Islamic state, people of all faiths and none have to accept that dogs are a part of life here.They don’t need to pat them on the head.

Exactly this.
Come to Wales for a better life but don't expect the old life to come with you.
Or else, why bother.

I am a dog lover and have two dogs. I am often appalled by the behaviour of dog owners both in UK and France. No attempt to clean up after their dogs, no control when they are off lead etc. Why do some owners take their dogs everywhere with them into cafes, pubs etc not everyone is a dog lover and some people are scared by them. I agree there should be some areas which are dog free for these reasons.
Escaped people in France do tend to ignore rules about dogs, consequently some towns have have pavements which are constantly fouled by dogs. Very unpleasant.

So now we won’t be allowed to walk our dogs in certain places to kowtow to anyone that moves to this country. I’ve never heard anything so bloody ridiculous…..oh wait…. It’s a direction from the Welsh Labour Government……why am I not surprised.
PATHETIC

Dog free zones? Oh yes please!

Cossy

Allira

Has the world truly gone mad???

When there are complaints that people are discouraged from vegetable gardening because the perception is that it is an activity of white, middle-aged women, then I fear you could be right.

No-one told Monty Don, Adam Frost, Alan Titchmsrsh or indeed Arit Anderson!

Interesting on our local allotments, men, of all ages and colour, outnumber women by around 4-1!

I grew some radishes once!

Having just read the article in the Telegraph (it's also in the Daily Mail and on GB News), my take is rather different. I think there were focus groups asking people what barriers they felt when going into the countryside and someone mentioned fear of dogs. I haven't found it in any other media.

Allira

^Has the world truly gone mad???^

When there are complaints that people are discouraged from vegetable gardening because the perception is that it is an activity of white, middle-aged women, then I fear you could be right.

No-one told Monty Don, Adam Frost, Alan Titchmsrsh or indeed Arit Anderson!

Interesting on our local allotments, men, of all ages and colour, outnumber women by around 4-1!

Has the world truly gone mad???

When there are complaints that people are discouraged from vegetable gardening because the perception is that it is an activity of white, middle-aged women, then I fear you could be right.

No-one told Monty Don, Adam Frost, Alan Titchmsrsh or indeed Arit Anderson!

Allira

The point of this report is that areas of countryside at present open to the public should become inaccessible for those with dogs because some people regard them as unclean.

It's nothing to do with jumping up, running off lead, it is to do with the religious thoughts of some that the saliva of dogs is unclean.

Nowhere in the Quran are dogs prohibited

If it’s religion based, then, imo, it’s ridiculous.

Some religions consider pigs unclean and seafood and some worship cows.

Has the world truly gone mad???

Though what this has to do with Climate change I have no idea.

A ridiculous pandering again by the Welsh labourites

I think it is a report by Climate Cymru BAME which is under consideration and may be used for further policy making

Oreo

UK beaches often have dog free/ dog friendly zones already which makes sense where there are lots of children.
The countryside is for every man ( and woman) tho, including their dog if they wish.Too much pandering to daftness going on.

Only during certain times of the year, even then we have dog friendly beach areas. This is just another pandering to minorities. This is the wetsrn World. What if they live next door to a dog. Having g travelled to several middle eastern countries, one in particular, Bahrain, there are dogs all over the place.
A ridiculous pandering again by the Welsh labourites.

The point of this report is that areas of countryside at present open to the public should become inaccessible for those with dogs because some people regard them as unclean.

It's nothing to do with jumping up, running off lead, it is to do with the religious thoughts of some that the saliva of dogs is unclean.

Nowhere in the Quran are dogs prohibited

NotSpaghetti

I'm not sure why a straightforward (to me) suggestion of some "dog free areas" is such a big deal.

Am I missing something?
Some beaches already have it, some areas in public parks, why not some countryside areas?

I agree (dog owner)

Tizliz

Please don't lump all dog owners together. It is like saying all football fans are trouble makers

Yes, this exactly! Most of us are very responsible. We've had Labs our whole life and all were very well trained. We are lucky where we live - within a few hundred yards of us, we can walk in open countryside and woodland and hardly ever see another soul, which is great. I'm also not aware of any dog-free beaches here in Scotland - there may well be some, but we've not come across any on our travels. Unfortunately, many people seem to have acquired dogs on a whim during lockdown and didn't put in the time and effort to train or socialise them properly - and now we are seeing the results of that. It's those irresponsible dog owners which spoil things for the responsible majority.

There are several places in Northumberland where dogs aren’t allowed eg Hulne Park in Alnwick and Howick Hall. So it isn’t as if there aren’t dog free places where people who don’t like dogs can go. I’m sure there must be places like that in other parts of the country. The National Trust would lose a lot of members if they became dog free. I do think something should be done to make dog owners understand more about the responsibilities involved with dog ownership though.

Football fans, trouble makers or not, only come out in numbers on match days.

It isn't a good comparison. Do 'good' dog owners have a badge saying so?

No, you figure it out by the behaviour of the dog, but sometimes that is too late and tragic for some, including other dogs.

Tizliz

Please don't lump all dog owners together. It is like saying all football fans are trouble makers

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kircubbin2000

Dog free zones would be great for people scared of dogs but it will never work because of owners attitudes.When a dog jumps on you the response is always he's just being friendly.

I’m a dog owner, lifelong, multiple dogs.

I support dog free areas, we’ve never taken our dogs to dog-free zones, we pick in poo in the areas they are allowed, we keep them on the lead unless no one else is around.

Many dog owners are very responsible people. They love their dogs, but are very aware others don’t? 🐶🐶🐩🐩🦮🦮🐕‍🦺🐕‍🦺

Please don't lump all dog owners together. It is like saying all football fans are trouble makers

Where I live, there is a rule (by law maybe) that no dogs are allowed on the beach during the summer. It might be from May to end of September if I remember correctly. There are notices on the beaches informing people about this. It used to affect us a little bit when we used to walk our daughter’s dog some years ago. We had to walk her up the end of the beach where it was more isolated and so dogs were allowed there in the summer.

Yesterday we went for our walk along Emsworth harbour and coastline. There were many dogs out with their owners, many not on leads. Some of the dogs approached us, others not so, but I spoke to a number them, and their owners, and my husband patted a couple (of the dogs.) None of the dogs jumped up at us. I hate that, especially when the owner (usually far away) yells that he’s just being friendly. I understand that some in the Muslim community find dogs dirty, but no one walking where I walked yesterday, would have been offended. Therefore it brings it down to dog ownership. If dog owners ensure that their dogs are on leads, and not allowed to jump up at other people, there would not be a problem. Everyone, from whatever community, would feel comfortable walking wherever they wanted to walk.

I'm not sure why a straightforward (to me) suggestion of some "dog free areas" is such a big deal.

Am I missing something?
Some beaches already have it, some areas in public parks, why not some countryside areas?