“Dog-free zones in Wales”

Is the use of Sun Protection mandatory now too?
(Just kidding) 🧴 🏄

Getting more like Stalag Australia every day, isn’t it? We are so overgoverned and over regulated here it is no longer funny. You picture bronzed, free Aussies but that is a bit of a myth these days, sadly. Particularly down in the southern states.

The Government has concluded that ethnic minorities face 'barriers' to outdoor areas created by 'exclusions and racism'.

A separate set of recommendations submitted by the North Wales Africa Society also called for 'dog-free areas'.

It added that during one of its focus groups, 'one black African female stated that she feels unsafe with the presence of dogs'.
This white English woman sometimes feel nervous in the presence of some, not all, dogs.

Others also kept 'seeing dog fouling on the floor', the report added.
floor or ground? 🤔

Barriers to outdoor activities includes the perception that growing food in gardens or allotments is 'dominated by middle-aged white women'.

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This woman is beginning to wonder if she fell down a rabbit hole when she was out walking in the countryside.

Many beaches are dog free in the summer, it has been the same for years.

Where I live it could be easy for a dog to wander over the border from England to Wales. People will have to concentrate on lessons in recall, so if the dog runs off into Wales, they'll promptly return.

What would happen? Would the dog be taken into custody? The owner fined? "Well, I tried to recall him, officer, but he was chasing a rabbit. No, I don't know if the rabbit was Welsh or English".

Sorry, this just sounds ridiculous. What should be happening is that dogs should be trained in recall, not allowed to jump up at people, and owners should clean up and take the poo bags home, not hang them in trees.

Gwyllt I agree, but really wish that with all the pampering and money spent on pet dogs some should be directed towards training, for obedience and socialisation with other dogs when out and about. That small amount of time, energy and yes money makes all the difference if started early on.

People talk about holiday cottages and the like. The Welsh government has done quite a lot to disuade tourism. People in many areas rely on tourism to make a living. People who enjoy the out doors and healthy activities come to Wales.
Quite a large proportion have dogs and do not holiday aboard because of them thus helping to boost the local economy
This year the visitors in our area have been fewer and if the news goes out that there are going to be restrictions on dog owners it’s like adding another nail to the coffin of the rural communities

Quote RosiesMaw2 Thu 14-Nov-24 09:30:44
Anniebach
There are dog free beaches in Wales, walking is atypically Welsh thing to do
Dog free beaches can be found all over the U.K. and it’s not only the Welsh who have learned to walk,

Yes I know, a poster said it was typically English

I'm not a dog owner, and I don't like dogs indoors in eating places, but I think a rule to exclude them in the countryside is wrong.. they should have a much right to run freely as children do..

Was Humphrey ever a cat at Number 10 ? Named after the character in Yes Minister.

Anniebach

There are dog free beaches in Wales, walking is atypically Welsh thing to do

Dog free beaches can be found all over the U.K. and it’s not only the Welsh who have learned to walk,

Jaberwok

It's Larry the Cat at No 10, not Humphrey.

Of course!

I have seen Asian families whose children will walk into the road rather than pass me when out with my gentle Labrador as though it was a man- eating tiger!
So this is possibly what is meant, in order for places to be inclusive.
Of course none of these issues are helped by the existence of banned breeds of dog such as the X large bully, and several other skid never even heard of until recently.
Why? Why would any ordinary citizen want such an animal.
Do they enjoy living in fear of their pet maiming or causing death.

It's Larry the Cat at No 10, not Humphrey.

Tbh I don’t think this idea will ever come to anything.

NotSpaghetti

Oreo - but as Iam says, you can't avoid dogs if they are actually there these days as they come and "explore" you.

If there was a "dog free" zone it won't harm anyone and is easier to enforce than "on a lead" for example.

We’re talking about in the countryside aren’t we? How on earth would the Welsh authorities decide which bit would be deemed dog free? Am all for dogs on short leads in built up places.

Last Saturday, because a few fireworks were being let off in the vicinity, some people attempted to attend a function with their dogs in the village hall, where dogs are forbidden, because 'they couldn't be left alone'. During the election some voters, probably the same people, were attempting to bring their dogs into the voting booths because 'they couldn't be left unattended'.

Much as I love dogs I think dog free areas are a good idea and agree that dogs should be on leads in busy areas. People dislike dogs for all sorts of reasons so they should have places to enjoy which are dog free. Tbh it doesn't matter why they want to avoid dogs, they're entitled to a choice.

RosiesMaw2

Well I think Humphrey the cat at No. 10 is behind it.

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Try France. I was there for weeks this Summer with my dog. They can have all the rules they like, all over the place, but no one takes any notice of them!!

Iam64

Oreo -this kind of official language alienates people doesn’t it,
The problem is out of control dogs. Walking is a typically English thing to do. It’s much less an obsession in countries like India and Pakistan - it’s generally much too hot so isn’t part of their original culture. That changes in time. Mr i led various walking groups locally. One of his favourites was a group of Muslim women who wanted to feel fitter and decided to try his walks, they chose a name for their group and had a lot of fun.

It does alienate people and I think it’s quite wrong.Having the government do something about dogs running free in busy places and residential areas would be received better by the public.Dogs kept on short leads in certain places but in the countryside up to the owner who knows their dog and can allow it to nose about happily in woods for instance but then leash it when near a field of livestock.

NotSpaghetti

I don't know if this is all over the UK but some beaches in Wales are already dog free. As this seems to have been going on for a while it might have originally been for dog-mess reasons?

Nothing to do with OP - just saying.

It was exactly that, dog mess on beaches where kids play and dig in the sand.

There are dog free beaches in Wales, walking is atypically Welsh thing to do

Yes, for many years we’ve had dogs banned from many beaches between March and end September

Beaches - as far as I know there have always been some dog-free ones in the Uk.

Oreo -this kind of official language alienates people doesn’t it,
The problem is out of control dogs. Walking is a typically English thing to do. It’s much less an obsession in countries like India and Pakistan - it’s generally much too hot so isn’t part of their original culture. That changes in time. Mr i led various walking groups locally. One of his favourites was a group of Muslim women who wanted to feel fitter and decided to try his walks, they chose a name for their group and had a lot of fun.

Surely one community needs can’t top others

Dont you believe it.

I have been waiting for ages for some Politican or other to come up with something about dogs, to try and make the masses "comply" in a willing fashion.