Netanyahu crimes

Petal, The police aught to have stopped that demo for its hate speech.

A police officer at a demo described a man wearing a kippah
and leaving a synagogue as - openly Jewish , no matter what the man had done or the police officer thought the man may
do,- openly Jewish is antisemitic

Yes, I saw that too Anniebach.
I think people are allowed to be openly Jewish in this country, whatever that means.
I think the policeman might have been more careful with his choice of words that day.

petal it came so naturally to him, this to troubled me

Annie the JEWS head a place of safely the issue was their governments over the decades decided to expand the place they were given.They looted and razed homes threw families off land they had worked for a long time herded people into a tiny area withheld essentials from them and settled the stolen lands I don’t know what version of Israeli government you know but mine came from people both Jews and Palestinians who totally disagree with how the successive GOVERNMENTS have acted.It is NOT antisemitic to disagree with government just ask the ever increasing number of people of the Jewish faith who march in the PRO Palestine cause.Would YOU happily let your neighbour throw you out of your home ,treat your family in the most horrific ways and ignore the authorities attempts to make them behave …as ISRAEL has done time after time with UN resolutions?I doubt it!

Why shout at us?

Within a week of the creation of Israel, she came under attack from surrounding Arab states. (The first Arab - Israeli war). This has been the pattern for Israel, from that time till now. No wonder she takes defence very seriously.

Caleo

Anniebach and Wyllow, Israel is not a Jewish state .Netanyahu want you to believe this as an excuse for his colonising aggression.

The Old Testament says it is wrong to steal and to covet other people's things. (Ten Cammandments)But Israel has extended its 1967 boundaries into other folks' lands and farms. Now Israel is colonising the whole Gaza strip and the West Bank. This is theft with violence, pure and simple.And nothing to do with Judaism!

The OT does say that but when Moses led his people to the land of milk and honey it was already occupied by others.

It's very historically controversial, jaberwok, because of what became known as the Nakba, or the expelling of civilian Palestinians.

The whole of Palestine was a power-keg in the 1930's-40's under the British administration. I support the formation of the Israeli State but not everything they have done!

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I don’t believe that. I think it’s propaganda.

I don't feel any of us can really know.

I can't imagine for a second that had they known what would happen it would have gone ahead:

but Israel intelligence is one of the most sophisticated and successful in the world - and to believe they had no foreknowledge at all, when we have had people saying they did give warnings of something to come?

I do not believe there was knowledge of the attack by Hamas
such effort trying to lay all at the feet of Netanyahu,, who we are told has a prison sentence awaiting him,
He has served a total of 17 years as pm, the longest serving pm in Israel history. So we must believe Israelis knew of the attacks
on Gaza ?

Jaberwok

Within a week of the creation of Israel, she came under attack from surrounding Arab states. (The first Arab - Israeli war). This has been the pattern for Israel, from that time till now. No wonder she takes defence very seriously.

This.

Disgraceful comment from you CariadAgain

Oreo

Disgraceful comment from you CariadAgain

The thing is, anyone could join Gransnet and post their propaganda.

I fear they do

petal53

I don’t believe that. I think it’s propaganda.

Oh, for heaven's sake. This is a whole page of search results showing reports of the ignoring of the Israeli spotters who warned of unusual activity on the border and whose warnings were ignored.
Includes reports from 2023 by Haaretz and the Times of Israel. The Telegraph, the Financial Times and the BBC.

It took no time st all to find.

duckduckgo.com/?q=israeli+spotters+warned+of+hamas+movements+on+the+frontier&t=ipad&ia=web

The determination of some to paint Israel as whiter than white is deeply concerning.

MaizieD

petal53

I don’t believe that. I think it’s propaganda.

Oh, for heaven's sake. This is a whole page of search results showing reports of the ignoring of the Israeli spotters who warned of unusual activity on the border and whose warnings were ignored.
Includes reports from 2023 by Haaretz and the Times of Israel. The Telegraph, the Financial Times and the BBC.

It took no time st all to find.

duckduckgo.com/?q=israeli+spotters+warned+of+hamas+movements+on+the+frontier&t=ipad&ia=web

The determination of some to paint Israel as whiter than white is deeply concerning.

So you don't believe the Jewish people should have a homeland then?

It's about time those Israelis that still think it's their country

Allira

MaizieD

petal53

I don’t believe that. I think it’s propaganda.

Oh, for heaven's sake. This is a whole page of search results showing reports of the ignoring of the Israeli spotters who warned of unusual activity on the border and whose warnings were ignored.
Includes reports from 2023 by Haaretz and the Times of Israel. The Telegraph, the Financial Times and the BBC.

It took no time st all to find.

duckduckgo.com/?q=israeli+spotters+warned+of+hamas+movements+on+the+frontier&t=ipad&ia=web

The determination of some to paint Israel as whiter than white is deeply concerning.

So you don't believe the Jewish people should have a homeland then?

^It's about time those Israelis that still think it's their country^

Jesus bloody wept.

How the hell did you reach that conclusion?

I didn't.

CariadAgain said it.
You defended her.

It's about time those Israelis that still think it's their country (hmmm...) told him where to get off. They're in a very precarious situation anyway - from having stolen someone else's country

Clear enough.

Allira

I didn't.

CariadAgain said it.
You defended her.

I didn't defend her at all. I didn't even quote her post.

I was countering the assertion that the story about the spotters was just propaganda.

Anniebach

No concerns that Jews will never have a place of safety ?

Yes, of course. What has been done to the Palestinian people is making all Jews much more at risk than ever. And this is the other tragic part of this awful war. Every single Palestinian left will be more of a potential terrorist than ever- because of what they have witnessed since this so-called 'war' started.

How could they forgive, how could they forget- what was done to them.

And yes, I know you don't believe me, but an increasing number of Jews in Israel, the West Bank and all over the world, are terrified of. And they totally understand why, too. And blame Netanyahu.

True, I don’t believe you