Greg Wallace suspended

From someone who loves Masterchef, especially the Professional version. I have learned so much from watching the Chefs demonstrations. Why throw the baby out with the bath water, ok get rid of Gregg but why penalise all of the other staff , Chefs etc. We all have made a note that Gregg is a moron , him being on my screen does not spoil my day. Putting that newsreader who abused children on would be another matter. Some of these Chefs have invested everything in to making something of themselves and good luck to them. I think it should continue. Where is the editing department, cant we edit Gregg out of the future programmes. Not rocket science is it.

BettyBoop49

I’m afraid I agree with Didfybod. Yes He probably went too far but for goodness sake a bit of banter is OK. Don’t destroy the man!

Nobody is destroying Greg he has destroyed himself by behaving badly, the man has probably made a fortune hosting a prime time show and should have had the decency to behave like a professional on set rather than thrusting himself against the backsides of staff on the show, using sexually explicit language, and bullying those who thought he was a prat.
In many other professions he would be toast. Why make allowances?

You can turn a song off.
You can't turn off a person who is invading your space.

Every time a story like this crops up I wonder if there are many men quaking in their boots in case someone complains about something they've said or done.
Amazed by Dibbydod's remarks, I've never heard men discuss their personal sex lives in mixed company. I've worked in situations where women definitely in the minority and only once had cause for complaint and this was on a first aid course run by a man. Around 25-30 students and only 3 females one quite young. Innuendos all day long mostly by tutor. Next morning before the course started I told the tutor I was very unhappy with his behaviour and if it continued I would not be finishing the course and would be reporting the reason back to my employer. He tried to say I just wasn't used to working with men which really annoyed me but after that there was no problem. The other male students seemed to take their lead from him and also behaved.

He was right they were

Interesting thread. I don't think there is any excuse for men who have been found to have behaved as Wallace has. They should be decisively dismissed. I'm glad the BBC has pulled Master Chef from the Christmas schedule. They need to act quickly and decisively in these cases. I sometimes think that the Beeb is putting its commercial interests first. Delayed action just leads to more speculation and keeps the issue more prominently in the public eye.

It's a bit out of order to be putting Greg Wallace on a par with the Dreadful Jimmy Saville
Absolutely no comparison with Greg's sense of hunour (like it or not) and the terrible crimes commited by Jimmy Saville.
Pity some of these women have nothing better to do than dredge up old offences.

It's a pity for Wallace, yes.
Spoilt his fun, no doubtc

@yellowfox, am sure the women could
have many other things they would rather be doing but probably think that reporting sexual misconduct, even historic cases of it, is more important.
If one of my daughters had a professional thrust himself into her backside and use sexually explicit terms to describe her body I would be pushing for her to report it asap.
Since when is being a sexual pest and a bully a sense of humour?

I had dealings with him years ago. What a sleaze, he loved himself.

MissAdventure

It's a pity for Wallace, yes.
Spoilt his fun, no doubtc

Exactly.
And the thing is why should this highly paid presenter get away with this kind of behaviour when anyone in other professions would have been toast long ago.
He made his money on the back of several TV shows, most importantly hosting a prime time show for the beeb, and for a few years got away with acting in a highly inappropriate and unprofessional manner.
I’d consider myself lucky if I was him.
Pincher in the Tory party was also toast for sexual misconduct of a similar type but towards young men. Perhaps those who think Gregg was just engaging in a jokey bit of banter should be petitioning for Pincher to be reinstated as well.

Babs03

@yellowfox, am sure the women could
have many other things they would rather be doing but probably think that reporting sexual misconduct, even historic cases of it, is more important.
If one of my daughters had a professional thrust himself into her backside and use sexually explicit terms to describe her body I would be pushing for her to report it asap.
Since when is being a sexual pest and a bully a sense of humour?

Since when is being a sexual pest and a bully a sense of humour?

It constantly comes up, that one doesn't it?

Apparently, if you don't like smut /sexual innuendo /coarse remarks about your own - or other women's - bodies... you need to get a sense of humour.

Is it not understood that humour is an individual 'sense' anyway? What will have one person splitting-their-sides with laughter will leave others cold.

And, another thing. People who indulge in this kind of "banter" (women included) not infrequently push the barrier.

My late mum was once told a 'joke' that she described as "off-colour" many years ago now. She didn't laugh (as she said later, it wasn't even witty) but being too polite to say anything, her male visitor took it as a green light and the next time he came to see her, told her a really crude 'joke' - apparently he thought she had a "broad mind" and a "sense of huour". She was embarrassed because the so-called joke relied entirely on vulgar terminology for male and female genitalia for its laughs. School-boy stuff, in fact.

Why don't these men just grow the heck up and stop behaving like adolescents with raging hormones?

BettyBoop49

I’m afraid I agree with Didfybod. Yes He probably went too far but for goodness sake a bit of banter is OK. Don’t destroy the man!

No it isn’t.
And what you call a “bit of banter” has already been decreed beyond unacceptable even illegal where race or religion is concerned .
Inappropriate sexual behaviour is no joking matter for the victims- how can you excuse it?

Babs03

@yellowfox, am sure the women could
have many other things they would rather be doing but probably think that reporting sexual misconduct, even historic cases of it, is more important.
If one of my daughters had a professional thrust himself into her backside and use sexually explicit terms to describe her body I would be pushing for her to report it asap.
Since when is being a sexual pest and a bully a sense of humour?

I don't think pushing anyone to report it is a good idea. It is something you have to come to terms with in your own time in your own way. It really isn't for anyone else to make the decision. I understand wanting her to report it but no pushing.

Pity some of these women have nothing better to do than dredge up old offences.

I find this offensive yellowfox.

You seem to have no idea what anyone else might have endured - or how much they have struggled with it.

he done a show called 'Eat well for Less' where he went into family homes... some of these families complained about him.

it seems that posters on here have not read up on all the news about gregg wallace which started in the ' The Telegraph' before other outlets picked it up.. It's Shocking

Giles Coren did a little piece on Greg Wallace recently in the times. Basically, Wallace was employed because he was a bawdy veg market trader. And now they are annoyed that he hasn’t changed.

Mollygo

You don’t have to understand it DD. I find that song and the singer creepy and yes, I have met him.

What don't I understand? The Rod Stewart song? Of course I understand it - I don't particularly like it, but I understand it, and it is not remotely akin to the predatory behaviour of GW.

If you find RS creepy, fair enough - I'm not saying you shouldn't - these things are personal.

I’m another who found your comment pity these women have nothing better to do than dredge up old offences offensive yellow fox.
Victim blaming isn’t a good look. You’ve no idea what offences the individual women were subjected to, or what triggered their difficult decision to come forward now.

I would say if you have a man who talks about hundreds of sexual conquests then more than likely there will be other issues. Sorry but I am not going to pretend otherwise. Russel Brand continually boasted about his sex addiction.

There are a lot of people around saying that women should realise that this "banter" is what you have to expect if you are working with men. My mother was in the ATS during the war, working with a lot of men from all sorts of backgrounds. She always said that the men were very careful how they behaved and spoke if women were present.

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Galaxy

I would say if you have a man who talks about hundreds of sexual conquests then more than likely there will be other issues. Sorry but I am not going to pretend otherwise. Russel Brand continually boasted about his sex addiction.

Quite so Galaxy.

Well said.

Agree

Another here who agrees with Dickens about men who talk about sex all the time having ‘issues’. The press is reporting more allegations about GW sexualised behaviour and comments - it gets worse as most of us predicted it would