People in glass houses.....

That's a good point theworriedwell, I hadn't thought of that.

Jeanathome - I try to avoid conspiracy theories. Despite which I do occasionally wonder about the power of money to influence
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May be naive but I worry more about America than the UK

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That's a good point theworriedwell, I hadn't thought of that.

I agree, hadn't thought of that.

That was my first thought too Smileless.

I think that was the point.
Still don't like it.

I don't agree with it but I can understand why.

Yes exactly..
I had read the Trump team were already looking to drag more up (or maybe more of the same again)?

Joe Biden as the POTUS was imo wrong to do this. But as for Joe Biden as Hunter’s father, who can really blame him? Would you like the possibility of Donald Trump as the POTUS coming for your son?
I’ve recently been re-watching The West Wing - oh for a POTUS like Jed Bartlet!

At the end of every presidency the president has the right to issue pardons . Trump let go much more serious criminals at the end of his presidency . Hunters crime was anyways s minor one and only was made more serious due Biden being his father . Trump will do far worse like freeing the insurrectionists where people were united and killed .

It’s awful but I suspect the USA will be an unsafe place to live for some people who have opposed Trump. I wondered if it was Biden’s only way to protect his son from a potentially vengeful system. Perhaps, if the son is pardoned he could leave the USA for a while to avoid the vultures? Otherwise I don’t understand it!

Is it possible it won't hurt the democrats as much as one might think.

Since Biden is going/retiring democrats can criticise him for it/say it's wrong/he's of the past in a few months, and meanwhile Trumps "pardons" will soon make it look pretty tame.

theworriedwell

Leaving his son to the mercies of Trump? I don't blame him. I think Trump would have delighted in making things as bad as possible for a Biden in his power. What father would do that?

Interesting point.

But what does any of this this say about the justice system in the USA?
What do Americans think of their President and President-elect?

Should they have these powers?

Considering Trump wouldn't lift a finger when his vice president was being threatened with death by the mob I wouldn't surrender one of my sons to his power and unlike Biden Ive never had to bury any of mine. I think he's right to risk his reputation for his son and I'm not ashamed to say I'd do the same.

No. I suppose I'd do the same theworriedwell

Love your description of Trump!

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Trump's treatment of Pence was one of the most disgusting things he ever did. Pence quietly went along with Trump for 4 years, never attempting to seek the limelight but because Pence refused to take part in the Capitol take over by agreeing the election had been "stolen" and leading the insurrection Trump happily threw him to the wolves.

I love what Biden has done, doesn't give Trump a leg to stand on, regarding his future pardons!!!

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It's a "yes" there, FGT. Unless the Sheriff stands up to freeing criminals, which some states have said they would do, interesting times ahead.

BTW, Trump plans to increase the use of the death penalty substantially. Do you agree with this too?

Who cares you can't trust anyone to do what they say. What's right and what's wrong doesn't matter any more and does he deserve the pardon who knows

I have often wondered why this pardon business is allowed. I do hope a turkey was pardoned at Thanksgiving .

Also this 3 months wait until the President Eject becomes President. Why the wait?

I suppose it's just the way they do it but it seems strange to me

President Elect I should have said!

I am uncomfortable with this, but understand the reasoning behind it. Trump's America is going to be a dangerous place for his enemies, and sadly, he has used Hunter Biden as a weapon to attack Joe Biden, and as a distraction from the crimes and unethical activities of his own family. Although it is not necessarily a defence, I feel that Hunter is a damaged soul; survivor of the car crash which killed his Mother and baby sister, never feeling as if he matched up to his heroic older brother who then died of cancer.

I know it was wrong, but I find it difficult to condemn Biden. He has not been a good President, he could have saved the Ukraine 2 years ago and in the meantime Putin has expanded his thuggery. Biden has not normalised Trump behaviour, Trump would do it anyway. Hunter Biden was singled out for prosecution, look what Trump has got away with. I wish him well and his son too.

Well since he's pardoned Hunter can't take the 5th next year in the Biden corruption hearings ☺️

Why cant Trump leave well alone at this point? How far can spite extend?

Its quite likely that in a couple of years Biden will be medically unfit to plead.

Would have thought that all Trumps other targets including pardoning himself will keep him busy. Not to mention major ructions on his policies on millions of undocumented people and resulting judicial challenges.