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Overspend/under delivery by the former government confirmed!

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Gris71 Wed 04-Dec-24 12:55:45

This week the full cost of the abortive Rwandan policy has been revealed, showing a spend of £715m from June 2022 to June 2024 with zero impact on illegal imigration. There was £50m in flights - for whom: ministers, officials but not one refugee.
The full report can be read in www.gov.uk›government › publications › medp-with-rwanda-and-the-illegal-migration-act-associated-costs
Turning to under delivery: the ‘botched Tory prison building plan’ (Daily Mirror headline today) will cost the tax payer £4billion more than expected, according to the National Audit Office. The prison expansion project is now expected to cost £9.4 to £10.1 billion and is currently massively behind schedule! The former government’s pledge to create 20,000 extra prison spaces by 2025, is not being achieved. Only 6518 places having been created by September 2024.
Full report: www.nao.org.uk/reports/increasing-the-capacity-of-the-prison-estate-to-meet-demand/
This is in just one week! What further Tory overspends or failed delivery will be uncovered in the weeks and months to come?

Vito Wed 04-Dec-24 14:27:14

Thank you for this, very informative. I'm glad the truth is being shown.

MissAdventure Wed 04-Dec-24 14:41:41

Well, what a shock!!! shock

Shinamae Wed 04-Dec-24 15:22:48

Liars and thieves and the current government isn’t much better..

NannyJan53 Wed 04-Dec-24 15:24:17

Well, no surprise there then!

Wyllow3 Wed 04-Dec-24 15:45:04

Thank you for this absolute clarity. No wonder Sunak had to call an election, and the Labour Party were right after all with the holes in spending.

What a legacy.

Freya5 Wed 04-Dec-24 16:02:23

The current Gov is no better. In fact it's making things much worse. It's adding greatly to the debt already there. Labour have a bad reputation of spending other people's money, till other people's money, ie tax payer, runs out.

Gris71 Wed 04-Dec-24 16:25:50

I look forward to your evidence Freya5 of Labour spending £750m with no benefit to the country. I am glad to see you acknowledge the debt (£22 billion) left by the last government! The new figures outlined in OP need adding to that.

BlueBelle Wed 04-Dec-24 16:32:19

Freya there is a massive difference between 14 years and a few short months but of course it’s better to spread the blame
But at least you re happy, if very wrong whoopppee

Cossy Wed 04-Dec-24 17:03:21

Freya5

The current Gov is no better. In fact it's making things much worse. It's adding greatly to the debt already there. Labour have a bad reputation of spending other people's money, till other people's money, ie tax payer, runs out.

I think it’s far too early to judge this govt.

It’s clear there was £££££££ wasted in the last govt.

May - ££££££ to the DUPs
Johnson - ££££££££££££ Track & Trace and PPE (just name two)
Truss - a fiscal disaster in 6 weeks.

I’m not a fan of some of the LP policies nor how they’ve been implemented, but one cannot compare 14 years to 6 months.

We need to be see the impact, negatively or positively, before we judge.

foxie48 Wed 04-Dec-24 19:47:28

£715 million! What a breath taking waste of money for absolutely no result whatsover. You could give every pensioner who relies solely on the state pension over £700 each, or give every secondary school age pupil £420 or even better, it could have been spent running an effective service for processing asylum seekers. What a complete shambolic waste of tax payer's money!

Iam64 Wed 04-Dec-24 21:02:56

How anyone can criticise the current government after four minths yet excuse the previous 14 years of misrule remains a mystery to me

Ladyleftfieldlover Wed 04-Dec-24 21:14:45

Iam64

How anyone can criticise the current government after four minths yet excuse the previous 14 years of misrule remains a mystery to me

Absolutely! I can’t believe that people have such short memories. The Tories brought this country to its knees. And please, people, don’t complain about taxes being increased. If we want decent public services that’s where the money will have to come from.

Chocolatelovinggran Thu 05-Dec-24 08:29:19

None of this surprises me, sadly. I hope for better with the new government.

ronib Thu 05-Dec-24 08:47:28

I know this might sound simple but the Labour government will know how much the Rwanda scheme cost to set up. So why in heaven’s name did it not at least trial it first before throwing it out at the first opportunity?
Remind me again as to which government wasted the money?

Casdon Thu 05-Dec-24 09:02:46

news.sky.com/story/whole-tory-cabinet-knew-rwanda-bill-wouldnt-work-robert-jenrick-claims-13244231
This is why ronib.

foxie48 Thu 05-Dec-24 09:08:01

Because it was morally wrong and potentially illegal, Ronib

ronib Thu 05-Dec-24 09:09:39

Casdon as a deterrent it may well have had some impact on numbers coming here but we were never going to find out.
Trump mentioned that he was interested in Rwanda so wait and see.
It’s remarkable that both Labour and Conservatives are so disrespectful of the taxpayer.

Wyllow3 Thu 05-Dec-24 09:14:48

Reasons Jenrick and others know it would'nt work

"The figures mean that if the UK sends 300 people to Rwanda, it will cost the taxpayer £490m under the partnership; an extra £6m in individual payments; plus £45m for processing and operational costs over five years. The total costs would be £541m, which works out as £1.8m per asylum seeker

a lot more www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/mar/01/rwanda-plan-uk-asylum-seeker-cost-figures

International Law: the plan was that even if in Rwanda, the person was assessed as an asylum seeker, they had no right to return to the UK although they had laid their claim to be granted asylum here.

Numbers: Rwanda could never have taken the numbers, but during the time Rwanda plans were bing drawn up, they dropped the ball as in processing/deporting people meaning a build up. Therefore not a deterrent as soon as Rwanda has taken max numbers.

Wyllow3 Thu 05-Dec-24 09:19:07

ronib

Casdon as a deterrent it may well have had some impact on numbers coming here but we were never going to find out.
Trump mentioned that he was interested in Rwanda so wait and see.
It’s remarkable that both Labour and Conservatives are so disrespectful of the taxpayer.

Yes, Conservatives were very disrespectful of the tax payer with this scheme. And now, as the O/P points out, tax payers are having to foot the bill left behind.

foxie48 Thu 05-Dec-24 09:21:47

Surely we elect MPs to govern and should judge them by their ability to govern not on how much they do our bidding. I didn't vote for the last Conservative government, disagreed with many of the decisions they made but didn't dispute their right to govern (unlike those who have signed the petition!) I did have a problem though when they were trying to act illegally.

ronib Thu 05-Dec-24 09:25:24

I am having trouble with the vast amounts of money being spent by government.

Nannytopsy Thu 05-Dec-24 09:35:38

If you want better NHS, education, transport, social services etc etc etc then money must be spent and we all have to pay more.

Wyllow3 Thu 05-Dec-24 09:35:57

I don't know to what you are referring.

Wyllow3 Thu 05-Dec-24 09:38:29

My comment was to Ronib, who didn't say what we are "overspending" on.

You are quite right Nannytopsy, faced with the hole left in spending, the government cannot possibly cut those areas.