Freezing this Christmas. Keir Starmer Christmas song

Put your heating on, and drive to the nearest food bank, perhaps?
Easy to access, you can choose whatever you want, so rumour has it.
On gransnet.

If any expects to freeze please, please contact your council.
Oreo
And the Council will refer you to a different dept where nobody answers the phone and when you try again you’ll be number 40 in the queue.If you’re very persistent you’ll get someone to promise they’ll send out a form which will never be delivered.If you’re not losing the will to live by that point and manage to get a form/ phone call they’ll tell you that you’re eligible…..but then do bugger all to actually get money to you.

That doesn’t just apply to this situation either.

Primrose53

MaizieD

We've already had a long thread about this

www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1343288-Aiming-to-be-Christmas-No-1?msgid=30920952

Oh well, here’s another one! I didn’t realise there was another one as I am spending most of my time at the hospital or driving there/back.

If poeple are anything like me, for various reasons, I am not on here as much lately, and the other thread happened to pass me by.

Mollygo

If any expects to freeze please, please contact your council.
Oreo
And the Council will refer you to a different dept where nobody answers the phone and when you try again you’ll be number 40 in the queue.If you’re very persistent you’ll get someone to promise they’ll send out a form which will never be delivered.If you’re not losing the will to live by that point and manage to get a form/ phone call they’ll tell you that you’re eligible…..but then do bugger all to actually get money to you.

That doesn’t just apply to this situation either.

So is "don't even try, just complain online" your answer?

^ So is "don't even try, just complain online" your answer?^
Thats your suggestion, not mine, so is that what you do?
It is true however, that a much more prompt reaction appears on GN than does when you write/phone/email to the council.

Ring Age UK or Help the Aged/CAB to get advice on what help there is and how to fix in forms.

fill in forms

Well this has turned into a right old argy bargy hasn’t it😁 just too add my two pennorth all those saying contact the council or age concern etc what about all the people who are just over the threshold for assistance but still don’t have enough fund to heat their homes.

Check out the ideas on the old thread, local councils have hardship grants (non means tested) and there are charities as well. Also local councillors will help if they can short cut council hassles.

old thread
www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1343288-Aiming-to-be-Christmas-No-1?pg=8

tinaf1

Well this has turned into a right old argy bargy hasn’t it😁 just too add my two pennorth all those saying contact the council or age concern etc what about all the people who are just over the threshold for assistance but still don’t have enough fund to heat their homes.

According to some these people don't exist. Some even think every house requires exactly the same amount of heat to warm it. Size, location, construction and levels of insulation are totally irrelevant! If one poster can keep their house warm on peanuts so can everybody else. A well insulated modern property in the south is no different to heat than a draughty, poorly constructed and insulated property in the highlands of Scotland.
No impact assessment was carried out before the WFP was withdrawn from all who weren't on pension credit Labour have admitted. I call that shameful and I voted for them!

Rosie51
I agree with you but I also believe ( correct me if I’m wrong ) it isn’t just one form to fill in but more like a book

Wyllow3

Ring Age UK or Help the Aged/CAB to get advice on what help there is and how to fix in forms.

Age U.K. is the beneficiary of all proceeds of #FreezingthisChristmas

Cheer yourself up. Find out what expenses your MP has claimed over the last few years.
www.theipsa.org.uk/mp-staffing-business-costs/your-mp

Yes I know the if they couldn’t claim expenses on top of their £91,000pa, we would only have rich people running for office chant,
BUT
do we see any of those who can afford to run for office, giving up their expenses or having them withdrawn because they are wealthy enough to do without using the same excuse as for the WFA?

According to Money Box Radio 4 Local Councils are proactively contacting people in their areas if they don't qualify for the Pension Credit but do qualify for Council Tax credit or other benefits..

It's important to actively explore other forms of support available to you, such as Universal Credit or housing benefits, even if you don't qualify for Pension Credit.

Many individuals may overlook potential financial aid or discounts for council tax, prescriptions, or energy bills, so reaching out to local councils or welfare organizations can provide valuable guidance and assistance tailored to your circumstances.

Most on here supported Starmer. You get what you vote for. Horrible situation, but I can’t say it surprises me with a hypocrite like him in the driver’s seat.

I don't see him being a hypocrite, well, any more than the other pms.

Even to day Lammy has given 50 billion to Syria. How come there was money for pensioners. Plenty of money to send abroad.

My message should have said no money for pensioners.

10 lady pensioners are out for lunch recently and all agreed that the WFA needed to be means tested!! However we all said that it was implemented in an inconsiderate way!

I thought the parody was brilliant.

There is money for pensioners, if they fall beneath the cut off line on their income, just as there are for other people who don't have enough coming in.

Thats equality, making sure the most vulnerable are helped out, as they should be, and not just handing it to people who don't need it.

Starmer and Reeves will be haunted by the withdrawal of universal WFA for the rest of their careers.
Remember Thatcher Milk Snatcher?
They are bound to be parodied for this and so early on in a supposed Labour Government.

Galton

Even to day Lammy has given 50 billion to Syria. How come there was money for pensioners. Plenty of money to send abroad.

I think it's 50 million, which is quite a big difference.

I believe the money is for immediate aid for Syrians who have been affected and to aid a transition to a stable regime. We'll all be very grateful, if it means that fewer Syrians are tempted to flee the country and end up in boats on the Kent coast.

Moreover, things could turn even nastier than they are now in the Middle East. It's in everybody's interest to try and prevent further escalation.

I don’t like means testing, it’s demeaning, and smacks of Victorian times. It’s sad that in a rich western society such as ours those without enough to heat their homes or feed themselves have to grovel.