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Elon Musk Is The REAL President Elect.

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mae13 Sat 21-Dec-24 03:51:02

He's exercising such an all-reaching influence over American politics, already, that it's all too apparent.

A recent pic in The Guardian - not exactly highlighting Trump's best side - was such a physical contrast between the two men. Musk was looking healthy and confident (smug!) and accordingly powerful, but Trump looked all of his 79 years: sunken cheeks, fixed gaze, that strange orange/yellow complexion like advanced jaundice and in a recent publicity photo opportunity with Musk and Farage, Trump looked as if he was being propped up from behind.

Musk gives every outward sign that he's already the power behind the throne: Trump appears to be having a rare day out from his care home.

M0nica Mon 23-Dec-24 06:55:47

SWgranI did not say Americans are primitive - at least not in the way you are defining primitive - that is that you see it a pejorative word, where I see it merely as descriptive of when in time people lived ie, primitive comes from the word 'prime' or first.

So I am referring to early humankind, who I see as being as intelligent and as civilised as us, but whose passage through time was not sufficient to bring them to our level of technology.

Many of these people had religious or philosophical beleifs that endowed comets, celestial bodies that are entirely ephemeral, in sight one week/month/year, then gone, possibly never to be seen again, with deep significance for human life and from whome much is expected and dreaded.

Today, certainly in the English speaking western world the loss of religion seems to have been replaced by the adoration of celebrities, people who are here today, gone tomorrow - and Elon Musk is one of those celebrities, at the moment, the best friend of future Presidents, up there with Taylor Swift.

I just wonder how long it will last, sooner or later there will be a clash of egos/Trump/Musk and Trump will win because Trump is President and the world will lose interest in Musk, other than as a very odd technocrat. Like the comet, he will have had his moment in time illuminating the world and being watched by millions and he will just become a laughing stock like Jeff Bezos and his inflatable companion. He will continue to be very innovative and make money, it is just that he won't
the celebrity he is now.

The Americas still have primitive people, as do many area of the world. You may choose to look down on them I do not.

Bea65 Mon 23-Dec-24 04:13:35

Elon Musk and Donald Trump give me the ICK.. both supremely arrogant and self absorbed ..have to mute them when I see them on TV

imaround Mon 23-Dec-24 02:26:21

I pray that the UK sees how bad Musk is to the world before he is allowed to buy the government like he did in the US.

Dickens Mon 23-Dec-24 01:07:42

imaround

Ugh. So much trouble posting. It is now only posting parts of my posts.

Elon supports the Afd in Germany. That is why he wants the Chancellor to step down.

Considering mass shootings in the USA have killed over 700 people in 2023 and injured over 2,000, I think Musk should concentrate on putting America's house in order instead of advising Germany on its domestic affairs.

Has his wealth gone to his head?

I understand Trump values his opinions but maybe the rest of the world is not so enamoured? Being an expert in one field does not make you an expert in another.

...Elon supports the Afd in Germany.

According to the BBC website - so does Taleb al-Abdulmohsen,

SWGran Mon 23-Dec-24 00:57:34

M0nica

“I see Musk as being like a comet that appears and rushes through the sky, frighening primitive people with celstial based belief systems. In this case it is US and British citizens with celebrity based belief systems.”

How incredibly arrogant and condescending, implying millions of Americans and British citizens to be primitive… because they have a different point of view to you? I can only assume you base your ‘thoughts’ on what you are fed by the usual left wing media like the Guardian. I wonder if you classed Mr Musk as a megalomaniac when he was on the left side of politics? I seriously doubt it somehow. I for one am pretty sure he has the interests of the American people at heart far more than the present Democratic party who put the interests of their party before the interests of their citizens (and in this case the rest of the world) by insisting their leader was compos mentis (when anyone who was compos mentis could tell he certainly wasn’t). Imagine trying to hide the fact that the supposedly most powerful man in the world was in reality the weakest of leaders, something which would obviously not be lost on the likes of Putin (and we all saw the results of that).

And as for beliefs based on celebrity, I would refer you to the Democrats campaign which, being unable to be based on substance, rolled out celebrity, after celebrity, after celebrity, hoping they would sway the American public. Fortunately, as they were not as primitive as you would seem to think, they did not fall for their celebrity based campaign.

nanna8 Sun 22-Dec-24 22:59:40

I would take issue with describing Americans as ‘primitive’ - we really don’t hear the ins and outs of why people choose who they choose because we are not there. I can’t get why they chose Starmer in the UK but respect that there must have been a reason. I know why we chose Albo here because ,living here, you get a certain insight - a lot to do with his pretty useless predecessor. Now I could go on and label the British as lazy, which is a reputation they have amongst some Aussies who have worked there but I know that’s not really the case.

Norah Sun 22-Dec-24 22:44:26

I was the one who noted serial philandering.

Norah Sun 22-Dec-24 22:43:20

M0nica

Why should being a serial philanderer stop anyone from becoming President of the USA?

I'm one who cares about morals, honesty, and integrity. Or lack thereof. I find lack of moral principles negative for leaders

Shinamae Sat 21-Dec-24 20:43:34

M0nica

Why should being a serial philanderer stop anyone from becoming President of the USA?

Yes , that Henry the eighth should never have been King of England…. 🤓

Iam64 Sat 21-Dec-24 19:03:38

Well….. it hasn’t so far MOnica

M0nica Sat 21-Dec-24 19:02:11

Why should being a serial philanderer stop anyone from becoming President of the USA?

imaround Sat 21-Dec-24 18:37:14

Trump is big mad because people are calling Musk the President.

Hopefully they break up soon, though I don't think so. Musk has what Trump wants. Billions of dollars. Trump has what Musk wants, the power to allow Musk to make MORE money via government defense contracts.

It is mutually beneficial to them both and their hangers on. The people of the world will lose.

Wyllow3 Sat 21-Dec-24 18:31:26

I just can't see Trump continuing to be happy with someone else calling the shots for too long.

Musk's arrogance seems to have no bounds. Talk about power corrupting absolutely. True to form with the statement on Germany.

Iam64 Sat 21-Dec-24 18:11:17

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well considering there was a cover up about Biden’s senility from Day One (who’s been in charge behind the scenes then for the past four years?) I don’t see why we’re worrying.

Two wrongs don’t make a right

imaround Sat 21-Dec-24 17:47:06

You know why this is? Because billionaires are paying the bills. We get who the billionaires want.

Allira Sat 21-Dec-24 17:33:07

Norah

It seems as if the USA changes from one difficult leader to the next. If I correctly recall - Reagan Alzheimer's, Kennedy & Clinton serial philanderers, Eisenhower useless, Nixon up for impeachment, Bush senseless wars, now faux leader Elon -- USA seem to always have something odd happening.

Out of a population of how many?
346,290,621

It's quite astonishing, isn't it.

Norah Sat 21-Dec-24 17:25:36

It seems as if the USA changes from one difficult leader to the next. If I correctly recall - Reagan Alzheimer's, Kennedy & Clinton serial philanderers, Eisenhower useless, Nixon up for impeachment, Bush senseless wars, now faux leader Elon -- USA seem to always have something odd happening.

imaround Sat 21-Dec-24 17:08:08

Ugh. So much trouble posting. It is now only posting parts of my posts.

Elon supports the Afd in Germany. That is why he wants the Chancellor to step down.

imaround Sat 21-Dec-24 17:06:16

Sorry, had trouble adding the image

imaround Sat 21-Dec-24 17:00:32

I posted quite a bit about Elon on the other Elon thread. But here is why Elon thi is the German Chancellor should step down.

nanna8 Sat 21-Dec-24 11:06:22

They’re different in the US. More so than our European cousins. America, unfortunately, calls the shots where defence is concerned. I suppose that is marginally better than it would be with some other countries.

Allira Sat 21-Dec-24 10:54:50

Elon Musk has no more intention of doing what is 'right for America* than I have. He is only interested in doing right for Elon Musk. Power without responsibility has been the aim of every megalomaniac since time immemorial

Well said
And megalomaniac is the right description.

I find the situation in the USA quite astonishing. Have we ever seen anything like this before?

Allira Sat 21-Dec-24 10:53:13

mum2three

Just how much power do you think Biden has had? Do you honestly think he has been in control all this time? The only reason he has stayed in office is because it suits those who are pulling his strings.
None of these people act alone. They are all figureheads.
So long as Musk does what is right for America, surely that is all that matters? What a pity we don't have a leader who wants to do what is right for our country.

So long as Musk does what is right for America, surely that is all that matters? What a pity we don't have a leader who wants to do what is right for our country.

confused
I don't understand your statement. Musk is not the elected leader, not the President.

Shinamae Sat 21-Dec-24 10:25:45

M0nica

Elon Musk has no more intention of doing what is 'right for America* than I have. He is only interested in doing right for Elon Musk. Power without responsibility has been the aim of every megalomaniac since time immemorial. He can never be president of the USA because he was not born there, but the speed with which he has cosied up to Trump has been impressive.

However just how long do you think a partnership of 2 narcissists like Trump and Musk will last? One of them intends to be Top Dog - and it can only be Trump as he will be President. Musk will stand beside Trump for as long as it is in his interests and no longer

Musk is already preparing his escape route by buying up the Reform party. Musk gives owt for nowt and will out manouvre Farage, bear in mind whoever pays the piper calls the tune.

I see Musk as being like a comet that appears and rushes through the sky, frighening primitive people with celstial based belief systems. In this case it is US and British citizens with celebrity based belief systems. He will fly through the sky in a brief blaze of glory and then disappear over the horizon never to be seen agaain.

I love the drama of your last paragraph however I do not like the insults you have thrown at UK and US citizens..

Shinamae Sat 21-Dec-24 09:10:16

Freya5

mum2three

Just how much power do you think Biden has had? Do you honestly think he has been in control all this time? The only reason he has stayed in office is because it suits those who are pulling his strings.
None of these people act alone. They are all figureheads.
So long as Musk does what is right for America, surely that is all that matters? What a pity we don't have a leader who wants to do what is right for our country.

Absolutely.

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