Yvette Cooper gets minced

Its because there is no really viable set of alternative right wing politics that answers questions on NHS, Care, Prisons, judicial system, pensions, and how to fund them.

Tearing down with no "but this would work" n the end is just liable to destroy people being bothered to come out and vote. It adds nothing to help the country.

Good for the woman having her say, why shouldn't she?

S9me are repeating what they said after one month of this government.

And criticisms that equally could have been made of the previous government as they were already long standing issues all lumped together.

Well done for starting a very goady thread.

It's only goady because it doesn't align with your political persuasion. If it had been about Boris or Farage no doubt you'd have found it "topical".

Casdon

Primrose53

Nonnato2

LizzieDrip

Just a couple of facts:

Yvette Cooper has given out mince pies in her constituency for the past 20 twenty years.

The woman who confronted her is a well known supporter of Reform UK PLC, who has recently been sending Ms Cooper a series of ‘unpleasant’ emails.

Anyway, Happy Christmas Primrose - peace to you and yours!

So what? This woman has every right to email Cooper expressing her views, and you have no idea what details were in her ‘unpleasant’ emails. As for being a Reform supporter nothing wrong with that.

Completely agree with Primrose on this.

I won’t believe claims made against this woman until we see evidence and even then, it’s her choice who she now supports.

However, you’re quite willing to start a spiteful thread only reported on very selected media about a politician who has freely given her time to meet her constituents face to face and willingly take the brickbats. How sad.

You’re calling it a “spiteful” thread because you don’t agree with it! 🤣

I thought it was funny, it reminded me of Brenda from Bristol and the other Labour PM whose name escapes me right now.

I don’t know what ‘get minced’ means

mumofmadboys

What an awful thread! So we should ignore wars in Europe, climate change and the misery of illegal immigrants! Let's just think of our little island and ignore the rest of the world and our collective future!

I completely agree! But sadly some GNs appear to have nothing better to do than constantly criticise the LP, seemingly forgetting that they won the election on the back of people being so fed up of 14 years of Tory rule, which started with austerity which benefited exactly nobody!

Nope, I don’t agree with some of the LPs moves and policy shifts, yes, I’m still prepared to give them a fair chance. Rome wasn’t (re)built in a day.

Funny (peculiar) that this thread should be called spiteful because it’s criticising a Labour MP.
Should all the posted criticisms of the previous government’s MPs be reclassified now?

This video from Talk Tv is worth watching and at 13.29 shows Yvette with her tray of Morrison mince pies and Amanda Jane Hunt confronting her.

youtu.be/Iq9xiQmXlpE?feature=shared

I say well done to AJH for telling her that she let down the Waspi women and how, since she was MP for that area they have lost so many amenities in the area. All she has done is speak the truth.

I’ve never been a fan of Yvette Cooper, but, what I do know is: she is doing more to stop the boats than any other Home Secretary.
And before anyone says show us the proof I can’t.

Chocolatelovinggran

So - an elected representative listened to a constituent who listed her shortcomings.
Well done to both, I'd say, celebrating our rights as citizens to declare our views and the ability of an MP to take it on the chin.

Ex-actly!

petal53

MaizieD

Handing out mince pies in a supermarket seems like a very odd thing for any MP to do.

I thought that too.
Especially since it is reported that Morrisons supplied the mince pies.

I said that before I saw the information that Cooper has done this every year for 20 years. Which makes it a Christmas tradition...

Good publicity for Morrison's too!

petra

I’ve never been a fan of Yvette Cooper, but, what I do know is: she is doing more to stop the boats than any other Home Secretary.
And before anyone says show us the proof I can’t.

I can't remember who it was who wrote about going to dinner Chez Balls very many years ago when Ed was in government and that person said to the children "So is your Dad going to be Prime Minister one day?" and the child replied "No, but Mummy is!".

We're still waiting, Yvette.

Well said Monica.
As to the UK being self sufficient in food, that hasn't been the case since the 1980s and if we don't spend money on ameliorating climate change, farming will, as I heard a market farmer say recently, take place largely in polytunnels. Farmland is already damaged by flooding, unseasonal weather causing poor germination, fruiting and harvesting. It's about time people woke up to the fact that the world has changed and 1945 will never come again though it just might in another world war.

petra

I’ve never been a fan of Yvette Cooper, but, what I do know is: she is doing more to stop the boats than any other Home Secretary.
And before anyone says show us the proof I can’t.

Hearsay is not evidence though. Until I see hotels going back to their proper use, I don't believe anything this Gov "say" it's done.

Well I did watch the video (not the one Primrose referenced, (as it has hardly any in it), but the GB interview

At the end of the interview, she punches the air, and shouts clearly "Vote Reform!!!!!!!

its absolutely clear where she's coming from, and all the guff about "Accidentally laving her phone on" and her son"loading it onto tik Tok without her knowledge"

ronib

The way ahead is clearly to stop buying bananas MaizieD

And mangos, pineapples, rice, etc etc etc ?

She also says she did not vote labour at the last election, she is not as the O/P stated a "lifelong voter".

Wyllow3

Well I did watch the video (not the one Primrose referenced, (as it has hardly any in it), but the GB interview

At the end of the interview, she punches the air, and shouts clearly "Vote Reform!!!!!!!

its absolutely clear where she's coming from, and all the guff about "Accidentally laving her phone on" and her son"loading it onto tik Tok without her knowledge"

Please, I thought you knew, we mustn’t let “facts” get in the way of a good story!

Merry Christmas to each and everyone one of you, and your families and loved ones. I wish you all peace and tranquility, love and kindness, whatever your views/beliefs/religion/nationality/political persuasion and a much healthier, kinder and more stable 2025.



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ronib we are also not self sufficient in foodstuffs as basic as wheat and have not been since the opening up of the Canadian prairies in the 1870s.

In 2023 we produced 62% of our food and only 75% of indigenous food. By far the greater part of our imports came from EU countries. Even if we ceased importing exotic fruit and vegetables there would still be a large gap between consumption and production.

Global wasrming will only reduce farm output. Manythousand of acres of farmland had to be replanted after last years winter rains and flooding and significant proportion could not in fact be replanted. Harvest figures were low. This country winter looks like following suite.

She also says she did not vote labour at the last election, she is not as the O/P stated a "lifelong voter". So what? What does it matter who she voted for? Just because she didn't vote for Labour does that mean that she shouldn't voice her opinion? She shouldn't have taken the opportunity to speak to a politician when the opportunity arose? Is it just Reform supporters that you'd like to keep quiet or everyone who's opinion doesn't align with your own? What is her being "a lifelong voter" to do with anything? The venue, the time of year, whether she had her phone on or not, the ruddy mince pies..... none of that has anything to do with that woman's absolute right to voice her opinions on a political party and it's progress or lack of it

Mollygo

Funny (peculiar) that this thread should be called spiteful because it’s criticising a Labour MP.
Should all the posted criticisms of the previous government’s MPs be reclassified now?

Are the comments on the thread criticising YC, or the publicity-seeking woman who heckled her? I am as unbiased as anyone on here claims to be*, but I see the thread as being about not very thinly-veiled approval of the stunt. The comments, on the other hand, are largely about the inappropriateness of the disruption of a gesture of goodwill at Christmas that has gone on for decades.

Of course there are the usual complaints that if anyone comments on unpleasantness they are somehow not 'allowing' freedom of speech, as though anyone has the power to 'allow' anything. Most of us have progressed beyond deferring to others for speech and behaviour boundaries, but the idea of being 'allowed' to do or say things by other posters persists.

If it had been Farage in the supermarket, handing out mince pies, would you have been similarly disdainful that he'd been approached and heckled? No? Thought not.
The trope that posters were all in favour of nastiness when it was aimed at Tory politicians is nonsense, and has been from the start of the relentless negativity that started on here before the election. [[https://www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1261633-Banning-milkshakes-to-save-Farage Here is a thread that was posted when someone threw milkshake at Nigel Farage. Many posters have changed names, but there is little or no support for disruptive behaviour, even towards such an extreme figure as Farage.

It is not the average poster who is biased in favour of 'their' party - the bias comes from those who say that saying anything other than 'KS and his cabinet are all evil and incompetent' is hypocrisy, and that Labour voters were all in favour of lynching the Tories for the 14 years they were in power. It's just not true.

Wyllow3

Well I did watch the video (not the one Primrose referenced, (as it has hardly any in it), but the GB interview

At the end of the interview, she punches the air, and shouts clearly "Vote Reform!!!!!!!

its absolutely clear where she's coming from, and all the guff about "Accidentally laving her phone on" and her son"loading it onto tik Tok without her knowledge"

I've watched the GB news video too. At the beginning she states she lifelong labour but didn't vote for Yvette Cooper last time. When she punched the air at the end it was more jocular than sincere (my interpretation).
I don't think it was staged and lied about her son uploading it. If you read her Facebook page comments (by those who know her) it doesn't suggest she's a Reform supporter.