Yvette Cooper gets minced

There is often outrage on here if anybody says anything negative or amusing about anybody in the Labour party.

Remember when Conservatives were in charge and Boris was ridiculed and insulted for years, Jacob Rees- Mogg, Michael Gove, Jeremy Hunt, Theresa May, Nadine Dories, Rishi Sunak and plenty more got their share same treatment but it seems that was OK.

I do agree with Doodledog that it is often media led but it doesn’t help when posters on here call people numpties and unable to string a sentence together because our views differ.

Anniebach

I have given up, 2024 and still use of Mandy for Peter Mandelson , and I still don’t know what ‘Minced’ means in O/P,
a wish for the death of Evette Cooper . and a post mocking her
marriage!

It’s just a pun on mince pies Anniebach. Nothing offensive.

Will you explain what ‘Minced’ means or could you have known it was fixed ? It makes some sense if so

Thank you Primrose

I think Mogg set himself up deliberately to be mocked. It was part of his " act".

There has been a vein of satire running through politics for many a long year eg Punch, Spitting Image and so on.

The whole landscape seems to have changed to me for the worse. Nastier, no humanity, racism, fear.

I agree about the decline in debate and increase in petty, offensive posts.
It seems clear as the Queen might have said, recollections about what is offensive vary

Primrose53

Anniebach

I have given up, 2024 and still use of Mandy for Peter Mandelson , and I still don’t know what ‘Minced’ means in O/P,
a wish for the death of Evette Cooper . and a post mocking her
marriage!

It’s just a pun on mince pies Anniebach. Nothing offensive.

Usually, if one says someone has been 'put through the mincer' it means that they have just about been destroyed.

Perhaps Primrose53 didn't know that when she chose to make her pun

As in put through the wringer

i thought minced meant drunk

I assumed minced meant what it always means - to cut into small pieces, in this case verbally.

It may seem funny but it could also seem to applaud a threatening attack.

Quick bob in before the rest of the family arrive.
I’m just a bit surprised that this thread is still running.
For what it’s worth, I thought ‘minced’ probably meant destroyed, as in mincing some meat.
Since it’s not a term I use I just guessed at what was meant.

And of course we know now that it was a total set up. Unsurprisingly.

Was it?
In what way, please?

And of course we know now that it was a total set up. Unsurprisingly.

Really Whitewave? In what way was it set up? And by whom?

Iam64

I agree about the decline in debate and increase in petty, offensive posts.
It seems clear as the Queen might have said, recollections about what is offensive vary

Yes, often depending on whether you are offended by a post or not.

I thought the thread title was fairly innocuous, not a threat, just a joke.
I still don't think the woman was in any way to be admired, she just sounded rude.

Whitewavemark2

And of course we know now that it was a total set up. Unsurprisingly.

Set up?
How?
By whom?

Minced , mincing, never referring to women but to some men ,

MaizieD

Primrose53

Anniebach

I have given up, 2024 and still use of Mandy for Peter Mandelson , and I still don’t know what ‘Minced’ means in O/P,
a wish for the death of Evette Cooper . and a post mocking her
marriage!

It’s just a pun on mince pies Anniebach. Nothing offensive.

Usually, if one says someone has been 'put through the mincer' it means that they have just about been destroyed.

Perhaps Primrose53 didn't know that when she chose to make her pun

I didn’t make up the pun. It was somewhere on social media.

I guess it did the job because it has caused a lot of discussion. 😉

Anniebach

As in put through the wringer

Putting someone through the wringer means giving them a tough time.
I presumed minced was meant to mean the same and was also a play on words as she was handing out mince pies.

Not offensive in the least imo, but some will always find offence even when none is intended.

I didn’t make up the pun. It was somewhere on social media.

Well there was me thinking how clever you were 😂😂😂

Allira

^I didn’t make up the pun. It was somewhere on social media.^

Well there was me thinking how clever you were 😂😂😂

My brain has been like porridge for the past month. Every day I am asking someone what day it is.😢

Allira

Anniebach

As in put through the wringer

Putting someone through the wringer means giving them a tough time.
I presumed minced was meant to mean the same and was also a play on words as she was handing out mince pies.

Not offensive in the least imo, but some will always find offence even when none is intended.

Is it a legitimate argument to say 'offence is taken not given".

It may be in some contexts. However, I feel that is far to simplistic and in this circumstance. It ignores the intention of the writer.

Why use a borrowed headline more suitable for a red-top newspaper determined to provoke dispute, rather than a headline designed to to create a reasonable discussion?

👍🏻

Um, this is Gransnet? A chat forum?
Not to be taken quite as seriously as some believe?
Unlike other forums (fora?)