Banning legal & illegal migration for 5yrs

NotSpaghetti

Mt61 - just wondering where you came upon this petition yesterday?
Asking given that it's been closed and responded to some months ago.

Who is circulating this kind of thing I'm wondering?

No it can’t be the same one as this was only put online yesterday. I was looking for the WASPI petition & saw this but I hadn’t heard about it before then.

All I know is the best carers we had for dad were legal migrants, very kind & hard working. When my dad died nearly every carer came to his funeral even though it was held at the church.
I still think though that the migrants coming on the boats are well treated & looked after, just how long it can go on for is anyone’s guess?

following on- also to alert government to issues they are aware of but don't know people feel strongly about - again not the case with immigrtion.

Did the similar one, that closed in May of this year and was commented on by the government, get many signatures?

Perhaps the person who started this one thought that a different government might give them a different answer...

Casdon

My thought is that this petition was set up by some ill informed and prejudiced idiot who has no idea what the consequences of the petition being successful would actually be.

I agree and certainly will not be signing it

Allira
petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/652866

There is a new current one as well - found it online as per the O/P.
Its utterly pointless and ignorant!

MaizieD

Did the similar one, that closed in May of this year and was commented on by the government, get many signatures?

Perhaps the person who started this one thought that a different government might give them a different answer...

According to NotSpaghetti's link 44,389 signatures.

How can you petition against unauthorised entry? Makes no sense. As for regular migration,there are a lot of jobs that the indigenous population ( i.e.white Anglo Saxons) don’t seem to want to do or are not qualified for.

You stand there and wave the petition at the boats.
That soon shows 'em.

At 10,000 signatures the government has to respond.

At 100,000signatures it’s considered for a ‘debate in parliament’ (i.e in Westminster Hall with a cobbled together little group of MPs.
Then the government informs the signatories that nothing is going to change.

nanna8

How can you petition against unauthorised entry? Makes no sense. As for regular migration,there are a lot of jobs that the indigenous population ( i.e.white Anglo Saxons) don’t seem to want to do or are not qualified for.

The white Anglo-Saxons were immigrants.

The indigenous population are the Ancient Britons, who probably became the Welsh and Cornish.

Allira

nanna8

How can you petition against unauthorised entry? Makes no sense. As for regular migration,there are a lot of jobs that the indigenous population ( i.e.white Anglo Saxons) don’t seem to want to do or are not qualified for.

The white Anglo-Saxons were immigrants.

The indigenous population are the Ancient Britons, who probably became the Welsh and Cornish.

Even the ancient Britons weren't the original inhabitants.

I am the descendent of irish immigrants, those that came to the Uk escaping the Irish Famine and those that joined the British army and fought for this country in wo world wars.

Homo Sapiens originated in Africa, so every one living outside that area is an emigrant to where they live now. but that is not really the point. Once an area is inhabited its inhabitants tend to resist further prople joining them.

The main cause of war since the start of time has been defence of territory. The main reason for this is that extra population puts pressure on resources needed to feed the existing population. We have now reached a point where the world is overpopulated and smaller countries like those of Western Europe are beginning to reach tipping point and increased population is placing pressure on resources and the economy.

Grandmabatty

Naive at best. How do you stop illegal migration? And we depend on legal migrants in nhs, care etc. Would that also apply to universities who rely on foreign students for income. It's another xenophobic rant.

One in one out. Not xenophobic at all. Our cities and streets are being changed, and in most cases not for the better of this country and its people.e.
You can scream racist, xenophobe as much as you like. It does not change the fact that many people have had enough.

Many people might ‘have had enough’ Freya. Being furious about the fact that so many from war torn or oppressive regimes won’t stop them trying to reach the safety of Northern Europe.
I’m sure their ancestors felt they’d had enough when armies from European countries marched in and colonised so many countries. We are facing the current legacy of empire building alongside all the reasons people seek a new, safer life.

It isn’t about ‘screaming racist, zenophobe’ it’s about the need for international co-operation to try and reduce the need. If my family was facing horrors, I’d up whatever I could afford to help fund the young, strong, men in our group to make the perilous journey, seek asylum and send for us oldies and the girls.

A big ‘if’ though isn’t it ? A shame the ones really seeking asylum can’t be separated from the ones who just think they are onto a good thing with no one threatening them whatsoever. That’s the real issue - most would NOT refuse help to those fleeing oppression and violence. Most, not all of course.

will this be retrospective?

It won’t be anything because obviously it’s not going to happen.

I thought Oreo’s post from yesterday at 12.18 was sensible and considered.

We can't stop a few boats let alone put a complete ban on immigration. The red tape and do-gooders won't allow this to happen.

JaneJudge

Some of my daughter's female support workers are from Pakistan, they are all training to be nurses but work in LD support whilst they train. They aren't the only foreign support workers that are relied upon by the care sector. We would (personally and nationally) be buggered without them

And yet the 16-24 year olds are the largest group of unemployed in the UK. Get these into work first instead of importing so many. It would be an enormous boost to our economy on many levels.

Sarnia

JaneJudge

Some of my daughter's female support workers are from Pakistan, they are all training to be nurses but work in LD support whilst they train. They aren't the only foreign support workers that are relied upon by the care sector. We would (personally and nationally) be buggered without them

And yet the 16-24 year olds are the largest group of unemployed in the UK. Get these into work first instead of importing so many. It would be an enormous boost to our economy on many levels.

Does that include those in education?

I certainly wouldn’t want a truculent 16-24 year old providing support/care to anyone I care about Sarnia.

Poppyred

Why not train the “unemployed” in careers that we do need? I know many would ‘fall by the wayside” but I’m sure a lot would get a lightbulb moment and realise that working for a living is not so bad after all?

This would surely lessen the need for immigrants to fill the posts?

Given we have a massive shortage of nurses/doctors/dentists/teachers/carers I’m not so sure how that will work?

Iam64

Many people might ‘have had enough’ Freya. Being furious about the fact that so many from war torn or oppressive regimes won’t stop them trying to reach the safety of Northern Europe.
I’m sure their ancestors felt they’d had enough when armies from European countries marched in and colonised so many countries. We are facing the current legacy of empire building alongside all the reasons people seek a new, safer life.

It isn’t about ‘screaming racist, zenophobe’ it’s about the need for international co-operation to try and reduce the need. If my family was facing horrors, I’d up whatever I could afford to help fund the young, strong, men in our group to make the perilous journey, seek asylum and send for us oldies and the girls.

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Has nobody in your family left your village for better opportunities?
I did, then "we" as a family did, then all of my children did.
Some came back - as I did, and some made a new life elsewhere.
We are mostly immigrants somewhere.