Who are we fighting?

I just take it as a phase they use meaning "concentrating energy/resources on issue X or Y" Has been for years I guess.

Plain common sense?". ...well......

In politics, it often appears to mean the POV of the politician makes "common sense" to themselves and their supporters, and they can all go round claiming "common sense"?

Do you remember the staggeringly meaningless rubbish trotted out during the Covid 19 lockdowns?

For example "Stay home, protect the NHS, save lives."

Protecting the NHS seemed to involve banging saucepans outside your front door every Thursday evening .

These days anything any politician anywhere says something, is all smoke and mirrors and is totally meaningless.

Their every casual remark has been pored over by political aides in the press office for months, to make sure it promises nothing, commits them to nothing and is total anodyne.

A good explanation of why they say what they do M0nica .

At least Starmer hasn't said he will make Britain great again. Not yet anyway.

Not yet anyway there's still time AGAA4

M0nica

These days anything any politician anywhere says something, is all smoke and mirrors and is totally meaningless.

Their every casual remark has been pored over by political aides in the press office for months, to make sure it promises nothing, commits them to nothing and is total anodyne.

You're so right M0nica but they must feel they have to do it, are probably told to by the PR people.
I think British politics has become such a sad, conflict-bound arena, no one listens to anyone else anymore, debate has vanished, it's all about scoring cheap points.

Yes! I think you've nailed it Monica

AGAA4

At least Starmer hasn't said he will make Britain great again. Not yet anyway.

😁

So far it seems to be pensioners, farmers and parents of private school pupils.
Oh, and a black hole.

Who next, I wonder?

They're all just meaningless soundbites.

I thought better of Starmer than to fall into that trap.

Whoever the invisible forces are he intends to fight on behalf of the nation, I hope he's considered the fact that our armed forces are very depleted.

Most patronising message ever has to be "New Labour New Danger" with a doctored photo of Tony Blair with demonic red eyes.
While ago now.

Oh!!
Is that Starmer on Gladiators?

valdali

Most patronising message ever has to be "New Labour New Danger" with a doctored photo of Tony Blair with demonic red eyes.
While ago now.

Do you remember that huge poster with a long line of people depicted on it:
"Labour Isn't Working"

It must have been many years ago because DS was in a push chair!

we shall fight them on the beaches!..

First there gets the best deckchairs.

Boris was a one for meaningless phrases but Keir isn’t far behind so far.🤬

AGAA4

At least Starmer hasn't said he will make Britain great again. Not yet anyway.

That’s because he won’t and can’t.

We should all wear Make Britain Great Again hats 🧢😁

Has Starmer promised to build up Hadrian’s Wall yet?

AGAA4

At least Starmer hasn't said he will make Britain great again. Not yet anyway.

Well, he did say that but using slightly different phraseology

"The prime minister, meanwhile, said in his message that his government would “fight” to rebuild Britain and rediscover “the great nation that we are”."

He's going to find it rather than make it.
Seek and ye shall find 🤞

I think we listened to so much nonsense from past prime ministers that now our first instinct is to either not listen or just laugh. This applies to Kemi Badenoch and Nigel Farage too. I wonder when Starmer will realise that his speeches need to sound as if he at least believes in them?

Notagranyet24

M0nica
“These days anything any politician anywhere says something, is all smoke and mirrors and is totally meaningless.”

“Their every casual remark has been pored over by political aides in the press office for months, to make sure it promises nothing, commits them to nothing and is total anodyne.”

You're so right M0nica but they must feel they have to do it, are probably told to by the PR people.
I think British politics has become such a sad, conflict-bound arena, no one listens to anyone else anymore, debate has vanished, it's all about scoring cheap points.

Sounds about right M0nica and
Notagranyet24

If polititians told the truth they would never get elected, the changes that need to be made in the UK are very unpalatable, revealing them before an election could be fatal. After the GE we had the begining of changes planned with WFA etc, there will be much more to come.