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Trump in fighting mood

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Sarnia Wed 08-Jan-25 08:25:07

President elect Trump was in fighting mood yesterday with his promise that 'all hell will break loose' should Hamas not return the remaining hostages before his inauguration.
He also wants to take by force if necessary, Greenland and the Panama Canal.
Oh and the little matter of changing the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.
Strap in everyone, we're in for a bumpy ride.

Marydoll Wed 08-Jan-25 08:35:10

You forgot to mention, absorbing Canada into the USA!!!

keepingquiet Wed 08-Jan-25 08:36:21

Wasn't he also going to build a wall? What happened to that?
The man is ridiculous and these statements are nonsense. The problem with Trump is that he feels he needs to say this crazy stuff because he thinks people believe him (which some actually do!) and also because his little rich friend is getting all the media attention right now and he isn't. Infantile behaviour.

Ladyleftfieldlover Wed 08-Jan-25 08:37:29

I foresee a difficult four years coming up!

love0c Wed 08-Jan-25 08:40:57

Ladyleft I know we have a difficult 4 years ahead here!

nanna8 Wed 08-Jan-25 08:40:59

Certainly makes life interesting these days. Not a lot we can do about it,though.

Sarnia Wed 08-Jan-25 08:41:23

Marydoll

You forgot to mention, absorbing Canada into the USA!!!

Oh yes, especially now Trudeau has resigned. No better time!

Nonnato2 Wed 08-Jan-25 08:46:52

Ladyleftfieldlover

I foresee a difficult four years coming up!

Under this disgusting Labour government yes.

MayBee70 Wed 08-Jan-25 08:47:21

I listened to part of his speech. Sounded like gobbledegook to me.I didn’t understand what he was rambling on about apart from being ‘the best at everything’. My partner says that, later on in his speech he was critical of Jimmy Carter. I’m glad I didn’t hear that bit angry.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 08-Jan-25 08:52:47

IMO the most worrying at the moment is Trump’s threat to use military force to annex the Panama Canal and Greenland.

Canada was mentioned by Trump as becoming the 51st state, but that is not foremost on his mind at the moment.

With regards to Panama, I think this is a tactic that Trump uses and which has been mentioned on here - of using threatening tactics to get what he wants - which in this case is to reduce the cost of USA shipping using the canal.

Greenland - I think the possibility of a land very rich in mineral resources are getting the better if him.

Never-the-less his rhetoric is something that must be met with firmness, and he must be made to realise that there are ways of proceeding and these do not include military threats.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 08-Jan-25 08:58:28

On the other hand, you could panic a tad and worry that Trump’s apparent expansionism is reminiscent of so much in history which has never ended well.

J52 Wed 08-Jan-25 09:18:25

Whitewavemark2

On the other hand, you could panic a tad and worry that Trump’s apparent expansionism is reminiscent of so much in history which has never ended well.

Yes it is extremely worrying. I hope that somewhere in the Republican Party there is the voice of reason. He is certainly coming across as even more of a megalomaniac.
The Americans who are in the grips of natural disasters and violent attacks on the public, deserve so much better.

Ladyleftfieldlover Wed 08-Jan-25 09:27:29

We’re talking about trump!

Davida1968 Wed 08-Jan-25 09:39:12

If he can offer to buy Greenland, then perhaps he'll offer to "buy the UK" - or one of the four countries therein? IMO he's crazy enough to think he could make us the 51st state!

vegansrock Wed 08-Jan-25 09:42:12

I expect Farage will be campaigning for the UK to become the 53rd state after Canada and Greenland. What was that about UK independence?

Oreo Wed 08-Jan-25 09:44:05

Sarnia

Marydoll

You forgot to mention, absorbing Canada into the USA!!!

Oh yes, especially now Trudeau has resigned. No better time!

Such a bad time for Canada to be without a good leader!
We all hope it’s just rhetoric from Trump but can’t be sure he won’t back up his words with action on some things.🤬

ronib Wed 08-Jan-25 10:03:54

Trump is a businessman and the Uk has no investment appeal whatsoever. Trump does of course need to have an open Panama Canal and NATO is duty bound to protect Greenland. Trump seems to enjoy dishing out vague information for the journalists to fantasy spin. We don’t need to believe it.

Allira Wed 08-Jan-25 10:24:42

MayBee70

I listened to part of his speech. Sounded like gobbledegook to me.I didn’t understand what he was rambling on about apart from being ‘the best at everything’. My partner says that, later on in his speech he was critical of Jimmy Carter. I’m glad I didn’t hear that bit angry.

What!

The man has taken leave of his senses.
Well, you know what I mean.

Cossy Wed 08-Jan-25 10:26:13

ronib

Trump is a businessman and the Uk has no investment appeal whatsoever. Trump does of course need to have an open Panama Canal and NATO is duty bound to protect Greenland. Trump seems to enjoy dishing out vague information for the journalists to fantasy spin. We don’t need to believe it.

Trump is an ext

MayBee70 Wed 08-Jan-25 10:28:36

Oreo

Sarnia

Marydoll

You forgot to mention, absorbing Canada into the USA!!!

Oh yes, especially now Trudeau has resigned. No better time!

Such a bad time for Canada to be without a good leader!
We all hope it’s just rhetoric from Trump but can’t be sure he won’t back up his words with action on some things.🤬

So his pal Musk is saying that the UK is no longer a democracy but it’s ok for America to take over Canada? And Trump now says he’s going to rename The Gulf of Mexico The Gulf of America.

Rosie51 Wed 08-Jan-25 10:37:00

Trump can call The Gulf of Mexico anything he likes, the rest of the world doesn't have to (and no doubt wouldn't) comply. He really can't control other countries to that extent, that fluff should be the least of anyone's worries. On the other hand threatening two NATO partners is worrying.

Grantanow Wed 08-Jan-25 10:37:22

Journalists need to find some real issues to write about and give less time to attention seekers like Musk, Trump and various Tory so-called leaders. Of course, it's easy for lazy hacks to write up cheap rhetoric rather than search for real news.

Nonnato2 Wed 08-Jan-25 10:41:29

Ladyleftfieldlover

We’re talking about trump!

Yes I know you were fieldlover.

HousePlantQueen Wed 08-Jan-25 10:43:08

Whitewavemark2

On the other hand, you could panic a tad and worry that Trump’s apparent expansionism is reminiscent of so much in history which has never ended well.

I agree. My daughter said this is reminiscent of the 1920s.

Wyllow3 Wed 08-Jan-25 11:00:18

How does he intend to resolve matters over the hostages? Trump will hold a lot of power as regards Netanyahu because of the huge military aid budget.