Southport stabbings - sentencing

Terrible, terrible.

Whatever happens next, the lives of the families of those poor little girls are blighted forever.

BBC website gives full details also discussed over on the other thread

BBC

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/czepl8406n8t

The prosecution also said 'There is no evidence that he ascribed to any particular political or religious ideology - he wasn’t fighting for a cause

BBC also has an article which pinpoints the history of interventions - best one I've seen that charts his teenage years. "How red flags were missed"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78w7nlwz9po

Yes he need to be held for life.

I hope the prison wardens suddenly develop a hearing problem when he's torn apart by other prisoners.

I think Broadmoor is more likely destination or isolated special unit.

Ill! Good actor more like. A well known ploy this. I hope he is getting life in prison.

Too young to be given whole of life sentence apparently

So sickening…

mum2three

I hope the prison wardens suddenly develop a hearing problem when he's torn apart by other prisoners.

I always find it astonishing when people condemning someone for violent acts then express approval for violent acts.

I doubt he'll ever be a free man. He'll get a minimum term before able to apply for parole. 30 years maybe? Maybe we need a change in law about sentencing.

I'm very close to where this horrendous attack took place. I have a family member who was witness to the aftermath on the road. I don't think she will ever be the same again.

I would like him to be treated the same as the longest serving prisoner in the uk is treated. Robert Maudsley. Longest serving prisoner, kept in a cell/dungeon as some call it.

Maybe they could share

I'm just so incensed about this case. How could he have done that? He's not using any reason for the behaviour. No mental health despite it being mentioned initially. No actual terrorist group.

The parents are beyond strong. Listening to the evidence and seeing CCTV must be such an ordeal.

May they sometime in the future find peace

There was contact with Mental Health services when he was younger.
As regards his state of mind now, I think it's up to police/CPS psychiatric assessments although she of us have speculated (including me). I presume these will be alluded to in sentencing.

He has now twice been removed from the court for screaming and causing a dreadful disruption.

They are waiting to bring him back. The impact statements are now being read out and Mark White a reporter with years of experience has been totally choked up discussing this and was in tears.

Hope he’s banged up for life & not in a hospital prison

Watching the BBC news now and the awful case. There was a picture of the murderer and the thought struck me it was the last face those little girls saw when they desperately wanted their mummies and daddies.......heartbreaking😪😪😪😪

The statement from the dance instructor was very moving, in terms if the impact it has had on every aspect of her life.

mum2three

I hope the prison wardens suddenly develop a hearing problem when he's torn apart by other prisoners.

What have we become?

Wyllow3

I think Broadmoor is more likely destination or isolated special unit.

Doubt it...likely stay in belmarsh . Hes not criminally insane

He has been sentenced to life with a minimum of 52 years before he can apply for parole. No doubt if he had been 18, just a few days older, when he committed these atrocities he would have been given a whole life sentence. Personally, I think that’s a reasonable outcome.

Yes, I think it is reasonable, under the circumstances, but no sentence will ever bring back those little girls, nor ease the suffering of their families nor those who survived. The details of the injuries inflicted are almost beyond belief. I hope he suffers for the rest of his miserable life - too cowardly to even face his sentence.

I think he is cunning and knows only too well what he has done. He deliberately disrupted the court today to avoid facing the families and hearing his sentence. The police said he had a long standing fascination with violence and killing. There is no way his parents didn’t know what he was like. He might be autistic but many kids are who don’t do what he has done. Evil and cunning, calculating. I hope he suffers immensely for the rest of his miserable life.

mum2three

I hope the prison wardens suddenly develop a hearing problem when he's torn apart by other prisoners.

Awful post.

So do I woodenspoon, not a Christian reaction I know but there is much to be said for ‘a life for a life’.

He will suffer, even in solitary confinement. I would not be sorry to hear that he had been attacked. Prisoners will know who he is and find a way to mete out the sort of justice they always give to killers of children.

Also, I have read a lot about the father. Apparently he was very senior in the army in Rwanda (sorry their history is not on my radar) and before he got granted asylum here he was at threat of deportation. Apparently, a well known human rights lawyer whose name is on the tip of all our tongues was the one to defend him. Now if this is true or not I do not know but plenty online are saying it is. Another layer of this story?

I want to know why he targeted that particular event.

He will have a miserable time in prison, he has nowhere to hide.
I think he is just pure evil and beyond help.

How do his poor parents cope knowing what their son has done?