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Whitewavemark2 Wed 29-Jan-25 11:54:37

I would highly recommend todays “The Rest is Politics” 29/01/25. Podcast

Warning it is grim and chilling

MaizieD Tue 11-Feb-25 21:26:37

If a woman hyphenates her name with her husband’s this married name does not match the name on her birth certificate, so her birth certificate wouldn’t count as identification, under the SAVE act.

What about marriage certificates ? Don’t they have them in the US?

Casdon Tue 11-Feb-25 21:26:43

Rula

They're really not erasing women.

What do you think they are doing Rula, can you provide us with your rationale for what’s happening?

David49 Tue 11-Feb-25 21:28:44

I’m actually very surprised that 50% of US population have passports, there will obviously be large numbers of migrant citizens that don’t have birth certificates. So it’s daft to insist on birth certificates, however if there are large numbers of voters who cannot be verified, its about time they were, so get on with it. We have AI now so it shouldn’t take long.

MaizieD Tue 11-Feb-25 21:31:12

Many disabled people need a straw, paper straws are not strong enough, many folks cannot afford the reusable ones (not sure what they are made of)

Paper straws were ubiquitous in my youth. I don’t recall them collapsing or becoming sodden. It’s surely not beyond the ability of man or woman to make a durable paper straw?

Norah Tue 11-Feb-25 21:32:32

In Greenland news today:

‘Red, White and Blueland?’ Republican unveils bill to rename Greenland
Georgia Representative Buddy Carter hopes to assist the U.S.’s ‘negotiator-in-chief’ with his plans to acquire the Arctic island

Casdon Tue 11-Feb-25 21:33:56

Many states have their own ID card systems already don’t they?

imaround Tue 11-Feb-25 21:34:16

Rula

They're really not erasing women.

Yes they really are.

Norah Tue 11-Feb-25 21:36:22

Google Maps changes name of Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America after Donald Trump executive order
Donald Trump previously signed an executive order renaming the Gulf of Mexico. But Mexico's president disputed the legality of the move.

Tuesday 11 February 2025 09:44, UK

Norah Tue 11-Feb-25 21:37:26

He really has lost the plot!

Wyllow3 Tue 11-Feb-25 21:45:12

Casdon

Many states have their own ID card systems already don’t they?

Its not clear in the legislation whether these will be accepted, Casdon.

Churchview Tue 11-Feb-25 21:46:01

10 reusable plastic straws cost about £2 in the shops - often much cheaper. The Range do 24 for £1.
A stainless steel one that would last indefinitely can be had for about £2.50.

HousePlantQueen Tue 11-Feb-25 21:49:20

imaround

Groups that are having rights stripped away from them in the US.

LGBTQ+
Minorities
Women

Except I can't bring some of this up on here lest it cause problems. Please do your research And if you want more information on what is happening DM me.

Please continue. Some of us have the critical capacity to understand, and be terrified by your first hand reports. Please do not concern yourself with the opinions of those on here who are blinded by their hatred of the democratically elected Labour government, and don't believe anything until it is reported by certain newspapers, or indeed by GB News.

I am very grateful that you are taking the time to keep us informed.

Churchview Tue 11-Feb-25 21:49:39

MaizieD

^If a woman hyphenates her name with her husband’s this married name does not match the name on her birth certificate, so her birth certificate wouldn’t count as identification, under the SAVE act.^

What about marriage certificates ? Don’t they have them in the US?

"The legislation does not mention the potential option for these Americans to present change-of-name documentation or a marriage certificate in combination with a birth certificate to prove their citizenship."

www.americanprogress.org/article/the-save-act-would-disenfranchise-millions-of-citizens/

Allira Tue 11-Feb-25 21:49:52

GrannyGravy13

Allira

HousePlantQueen

Nandalot

Ona lighter note, the latest Trump move is to sign. Executive order to shit way from using paper straws.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2k574ydyyqo
If you watch the video, you can see the scarcely hidden amusement on the face of the side on the right of the picture as Trump talks about how paper straws explode.

That poor man trying to stifle his laughter. grin

Just don't use a s*dding straw at all!!
Who needs a straw of any kind?

(Sorry for expletive)

Many disabled people need a straw, paper straws are not strong enough, many folks cannot afford the reusable ones (not sure what they are made of)

Yes, I do realise that but the majority of peopld don't need to drink through a straw.

Some are made of metal, just don't drink a very hot drink through one.

Allira Tue 11-Feb-25 21:54:07

Norah

Google Maps changes name of Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America after Donald Trump executive order
Donald Trump previously signed an executive order renaming the Gulf of Mexico. But Mexico's president disputed the legality of the move.

Tuesday 11 February 2025 09:44, UK

Apple has refused to change the name.

Casdon Tue 11-Feb-25 21:54:24

Wyllow3

Casdon

Many states have their own ID card systems already don’t they?

Its not clear in the legislation whether these will be accepted, Casdon.

I feel sick to the stomach thinking about what’s going on. It is humiliating for the USA’s citizens.

LizzieDrip Tue 11-Feb-25 21:54:31

MaizieD
”What about marriage certificates ? Don’t they have them in the US?”

Yes they do have marriage certificates.

However, according to the article I posted, the SAVE Act does not state if marriage certificates will be allowed as a valid means of identification.

Churchview Tue 11-Feb-25 21:59:31

250 million a day disposable plastic straws are used in the USA - every day!

I pick up litter and sea waste on my local beaches (UK) every day of my life.
5 years ago I'd pick up multiple plastic straws every day.
Now I rarely see one. Plastic waste has got better since all the Plastic Free initiatives.

Trumps endorsement of disposable plastic straws is a disaster for the environment and wildlife.

imaround Tue 11-Feb-25 21:59:37

Every state has their own ID systems, but they must be Real Ids in order to be valid after a certain date. My state has already transferred over to Real Id. But some have not.

LizzieDrip Tue 11-Feb-25 21:59:46

From the article linked in my earlier post:

” The legislation does not mention the potential option for these Americans to present change-of-name documentation or a marriage certificate in combination with a birth certificate to prove their citizenship. This shows yet another area in which the legislation makes no attempts to ensure that citizens’ voting rights are protected. Seemingly, the SAVE Act would rather err on the side of disenfranchisement”

PoliticsNerd Tue 11-Feb-25 22:04:48

This is a reintroduction of a previous bill.

"The legislation completely disregards the resources available to most Americans as well as the reality of American women’s lives. Despite these overwhelming facts and the real possibility that millions of Americans—Republicans, Democrats, and independents—could be disenfranchised, leadership in the U.S"

www.americanprogress.org/article/the-save-act-would-disenfranchise-millions-of-citizens/

imaround Tue 11-Feb-25 22:56:12

Here is the list of banned words that the National Scientific Foundation (and CDC) can no longer use. This will affect women's research.

www.kpbs.org/news/economy/2025/02/07/federal-list-of-forbidden-words-may-jeopardize-research-at-ucsd

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imaround Tue 11-Feb-25 23:10:35

Army and Navy have removed pages that mention women's military service.

www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2025/02/10/army-navy-remove-web-pages-highlighting-womens-military-service/

NASA did the same thing:

www.yahoo.com/news/trump-orders-nasa-purge-mentions-120008493.html

This all girls STEM event has been cancelled due to DEI being banned.

www.postandcourier.com/education-lab/ashley-hall-stem-event-canceled-dei-ban/article_83abe768-e7cf-11ef-afdf-a3348f006f48.html

imaround Tue 11-Feb-25 23:15:07

The Office of Research of Women's Health has removed a ton of information from their website. I am attaching screenshots of before and after.

Slide 1 is the before. Slide 3 shows what those pages look like now. 404 error messages. Data is gone.

Slide 2 shows how the wording they did have has changed. It is slight, but should be noted.

Note, scientists use the information on this site for research about women's health.

imaround Tue 11-Feb-25 23:16:38

Sexual assault training has been stopped at the Military.

www.military.com/daily-news/2025/02/11/not-only-irresponsible-also-dangerous-democrats-demand-answers-paused-military-sexual-assault.html

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