Trade wars - how will it effect the UK?

vegansrock

We ought to support Canada rather than Trump.

Didn’t Trudeau bully the truckers there last year?

Ah yes, January 2024.
www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/23/canada-trudeau-emergencies-act-trucker-protest-covid

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And your point is? Has Trump bullied no one? ( rhetorical question)

vegansrock

And your point is? Has Trump bullied no one? ( rhetorical question)

Just comparing breaking one egg with killing all the chickens. Hey Ho.

My point is that Trudeau wasn’t averse to ‘bullying’ his own citizens into compliance.

Bullying by Trump?
An emotive word.
Following through on his rhetoric pre-election perhaps? He got voted in by Americans. They liked what he was saying. Now he’s delivering on his word.

In politics that’s unusual in itself. No wonder he’s popular with those who voted for him. Not the other half admittedly.

It’s like when we had the Brexit vote. Almost a 50/50vote. Hence the division and vehemently polarised positions.

Good luck America. I hope it works out for you.

I think Mark Carney will be well able to deal with Trump if/when he is elected.. Also a friend of the UK

FriedGreenTomatoes2

My point is that Trudeau wasn’t averse to ‘bullying’ his own citizens into compliance.

Bullying by Trump?
An emotive word.
Following through on his rhetoric pre-election perhaps? He got voted in by Americans. They liked what he was saying. Now he’s delivering on his word.

In politics that’s unusual in itself. No wonder he’s popular with those who voted for him. Not the other half admittedly.

It’s like when we had the Brexit vote. Almost a 50/50vote. Hence the division and vehemently polarised positions.

Good luck America. I hope it works out for you.

That’s not a point that’s relevant though is it? Trump is making threats affecting the world economy, not managing a dispute in his own country.

Carney won’t get elected. Same mould as Trudeau and the people in Canada have had enough now of his liberal nonsense.

True Casdon it was a poor example. But my point still stands. Much as we might not like it, America voted Trump in, knowing what he planned. A man of his word. He will put America First. Sorry for everyone else.

There has been veiled threats now directed at the U.K.

If USA invaded Canada wouldn’t we support Canada? I mean we have the same Head of State and all that.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

True Casdon it was a poor example. But my point still stands. Much as we might not like it, America voted Trump in, knowing what he planned. A man of his word. He will put America First. Sorry for everyone else.

Nobody is disputing that though, what we are discussing on this thread is the impact on the economies of the world as a result of Trump imposing tariffs on imports.

News outlets in USA are showing that the majority of people in America are against the tariffs.

Reading with interest. I don't know enough about UK economy to say anything worthwhile, but wanted to clarify one point.

NotSpaghetti stated that this was about fentanyl entering the US, but the facts show that in 2024, 19 kilograms of fentanyl was seized at the Can/US border, whereas 9600 kg was seized at the Mexican/US border.

I think this is hardly an excuse to start a trade war. But Trump can make any excuse and twist the rhetoric so people lap it up, just as he keeps saying that a trade deficit is a subsidy.

Conversely, is the fact that in Ontario, 85% of illegal guns used in crime were sourced from the USA, so Trump was correct in saying we need to better secure our borders.

mae13

Brace yourself - prices ever upward, as usual. The Cost-of-Living crisis doesn't appear to have abated and in recent weeks I've noted coffee being hiked up beyond thd rate of inflation.
What's happened to Starmer's much trumpeted "Change"?

You are obviously unaware the problems growers are having = climate change.
Coffee beans are very susceptible to the wrong conditions
It is being said that Arabicus coffee will disappear.

www.agiboo.com/are-we-heading-towards-a-global-coffee-crisis/

Casdon

pascal30

FriedGreenTomatoes2

We in the UK are all ‘part of Europe’! Geographically we stand within it….

The inept Starmer will find a way to botch our enviable advantage with Trump because it will mean admitting a Brexit bonus. 😁

I'd warrant that a great number pf people within the UK don't see themselves as part of Europe.. whatever the geographical reality

I’d warrant that a much higher proportion of the UK population see themselves as part of Europe than see themselves as a tool of the USA.

I see myself neither a tool of this Gov, the EU or the US. I think you are making a huge generalisation of the UK population. Maybe be right amongst Guardian and Independant readers I suppose.

The fact is we are European. We share cultures and history.

Obviously people who don’t read the Independent and the Guardian pretend they aren’t European, in the face of the evidence - oh well.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

True Casdon it was a poor example. But my point still stands. Much as we might not like it, America voted Trump in, knowing what he planned. A man of his word. He will put America First. Sorry for everyone else.

I very much doubt if many of those voting for Trump really knew what he planned or what it meant. He kept saying he would Make America Great Again and promised tarriffs as a means of controlling countries he didn't like, ut did the American Trump supporter ubderstand that high tarriffs feed inflation making everything they buy more expensive? I have my doubts. He also plans to scrap free medical care, I think when the Trump voter sees what Trump is going to do to their standard of living, medical care etc, they might have a rethink.

Completely off topic, but I do wish the mods would correct the title of this thread. It makes ne wince every time I read it.

If OP were to come back I'd ask her to get the mods to change it...🙏

Tariffs now paused with Canada as well. Wonder if the reputation damage has dawned on them yet. I suspect a lot of people will be quietly boycotting American goods now.

Freya5

Casdon

pascal30

FriedGreenTomatoes2

We in the UK are all ‘part of Europe’! Geographically we stand within it….

The inept Starmer will find a way to botch our enviable advantage with Trump because it will mean admitting a Brexit bonus. 😁

I'd warrant that a great number pf people within the UK don't see themselves as part of Europe.. whatever the geographical reality

I’d warrant that a much higher proportion of the UK population see themselves as part of Europe than see themselves as a tool of the USA.

I see myself neither a tool of this Gov, the EU or the US. I think you are making a huge generalisation of the UK population. Maybe be right amongst Guardian and Independant readers I suppose.

According to current data, the EU is significantly more valuable to the UK for trade than the US, as the EU remains the UK's largest trading partner, accounting for a much larger share of the UK's total trade compared to the US; this is largely due to geographical proximity and deep economic integration between the UK and the EU member states.

Also, significantly more Brits choose to holiday in Europe than the USA - over 75% of British trips abroad are to European countries.

If this is true, then it makes sense to have a good working relationship with the EU - regardless of Brexit and regardless of whichever government is in power.

The previous government appeared to want an antagonistic relationship; insinuating that the EU was being 'difficult' when it insisted on third-country rules - which apply to any country, yet so many people believed they were ^punishing us for leaving.

This sentiment is still being pushed by the right-wing press. How many times have you read about Brits not being welcome in this or that European resort - only to discover that the resentment was against all tourists, not specifically 'Brits' at all?

It's all so obvious and so pointless. But, of course, it works. And the resentment against the EU continues...

He's paused the tariff due to both Mexico and Canada agreeing to send thousands of soldiers to the border.

Seems like threats of tariffs work.

As for Justin. He's hardly Mr Popular in Canada.

An understatement.
As bad as Macron in France.