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Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

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Claremont Sun 02-Feb-25 20:05:54

And yet only 11 - yes, ELEVEN percent, believe it was a success. And only 24% of Reform. That is just staggering, but not surprising.

Why on earth should we 'get over it'?

Claremont Fri 14-Mar-25 20:59:57

Barleyfields

‘The vast majority who voted for Brexit are dead now^? And it has become obsolete ?

What a load of nonsense. Far from ‘common sense’. If the vast majority who voted for Brexit are now dead, should not the vast majority who voted to remain also be dead?

No, demographics are quite clear. Older people voted for Brexit- many are now gone. Simple fact.

Claremont Fri 14-Mar-25 21:01:57

Anyhow, all to do with the future, not for the past. It's not done, at all. The only thing that has been done, is massive damage to all sectors, of the economy, especially those that were promised miracles.

The fight is on, and no, we will not 'get over it'- for sure smile

petra Fri 14-Mar-25 21:04:07

FGT2
I bet someone else wished they had joined the. Too eager, me thinks.

petra Fri 14-Mar-25 21:05:12

Obviously dots should be in the above.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 14-Mar-25 21:09:03

😂😂😂 yes petra for sure!

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 14-Mar-25 21:10:25

Think about it Claremont!

Claremont Fri 14-Mar-25 21:11:21

petra

FGT2
I bet someone else wished they had joined the. Too eager, me thinks.

Sorry, do not understand this sentence? What do you mean?

One million Labour voters who backed Brexit two years ago are having second thoughts. This emerges from a special analysis of YouGov surveys conducted this year. It shows that, below the surface, public opinion is stirring. Significant numbers of younger Leave voters, as well as those supporting Labour in last year’s election, no longer think Brexit is right for Britain.

Moreover, the effects of demographic changes since the referendum are growing. Bluntly, older, mainly Leave, voters ahave died or are now very old—and younger, mainly Remain, voters are joining the electorate. There is a real prospect that if the people were given the final say on Brexit, they would vote for the UK to stay in the European Union.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 14-Mar-25 21:15:38

Blimey perhaps I should tell our AC they should be dead by now as they voted leave…

Norah Fri 14-Mar-25 21:20:15

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Barleyfields

‘The vast majority who voted for Brexit are dead now^? And it has become obsolete ?

What a load of nonsense. Far from ‘common sense’. If the vast majority who voted for Brexit are now dead, should not the vast majority who voted to remain also be dead?

Good call Barleyfields of course it does!
Acti never joined those particular dots either! 😂

Our family voted one way, most of our workers another.

We're all still alive. grin

Norah Fri 14-Mar-25 21:20:44

GrannyGravy13

Blimey perhaps I should tell our AC they should be dead by now as they voted leave…

grin grin

RosieandherMaw Fri 14-Mar-25 21:34:15

Bluntly, older, mainly Leave, voters ahave died or are now very old—and younger, mainly Remain, voters are joining the electorate
Let’s unpick this.
Remind me how long ago the Referendum was, 50 years ago?
20 years ago?
Oh, 9?
Fair enough lots of people have died in the last 5 years but assuming middle-aged to getting on - 50’s to late 60’s! Died by now?
Facts to bear this out please.
And as for younger mainly Remain voters joining the electorate - was there a different minimum age?

If they were voters then, they are not “joining the electorate now” and if they are “joining the electorate now” presumably they were aged around 12 then.

Claremont Fri 14-Mar-25 21:38:32

Many older people voted for Brexit, many in their 70s and 80s, and yes, 9 years makes a huge difference.

As for the younger ones, they come in two groups. Those who were already of voting age and who didn't bother- and will never ever make the same mistake again, as they are fully aware of the damage done. And the other group are those who were not yet of voting age at the time, but are now, and are vastly anti Brexit, as they also are very aware of the disastrous effects on their future.

Casdon Fri 14-Mar-25 21:39:04

The evidence is that a lot of people have changed their mind though. Many must have regretted their decision to vote leave.
yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51484-how-do-britons-feel-about-brexit-five-years-on

Mollygo Fri 14-Mar-25 21:39:35

GrannyGravy13

Blimey perhaps I should tell our AC they should be dead by now as they voted leave…

Actually, just tell all those who didn’t bother to vote that they should be dead by now, because they voted leave by omission.

I voted remain, but at least I voted and as it was a referendum, I accepted the result, and the after effects, like them or not.

Millions of those complaining probably didn’t bother to vote.
If the leave vote won because of older voters that just proves that older voters valued the right to vote more than the CBA group.
Saying that people voting now would vote remain is one of those unprovable facts.

With the benefit of hindsight, it might well be true, but there is no proof that the younger voters (including those who are now the older voters ) would get off their rear ends and vote any more than they did last time.

Claremont Fri 14-Mar-25 21:40:03

My grandson was 11 at the time- he doesn't know a single of his friends who would have voted for Brexit, then or now!

Mollygo Fri 14-Mar-25 21:41:29

Claremont

My grandson was 11 at the time- he doesn't know a single of his friends who would have voted for Brexit, then or now!

And that’s another unprovable piece of information.

Allira Fri 14-Mar-25 22:47:33

Claremont

No, just common sense!

No, it's insensitive and just plain nasty.

Claremont Fri 14-Mar-25 22:49:33

So, I have a great idea- let's put it to the vote asap and see. I am absolutely and totally confident, based on evidence- that rejoin would win hands down. Easy, surely.

Allira Fri 14-Mar-25 22:49:36

The fight is on, and no, we will not 'get over it'- for sure smile

Oh, I think we got the message a while ago.

Allira Fri 14-Mar-25 22:54:57

Claremont

So, I have a great idea- let's put it to the vote asap and see. I am absolutely and totally confident, based on evidence- that rejoin would win hands down. Easy, surely.

Better suggest it to Sir Keir.

Claremont Fri 14-Mar-25 22:57:02

GrannyGravy13

Blimey perhaps I should tell our AC they should be dead by now as they voted leave…

Not all who voted to leave were old- but a significant proportion, many no longer with us.

You do love a good distortion!

Barleyfields Fri 14-Mar-25 22:57:37

Despite voting to remain, I wouldn’t vote to rejoin.

Claremont Fri 14-Mar-25 22:57:49

Allira

Claremont

So, I have a great idea- let's put it to the vote asap and see. I am absolutely and totally confident, based on evidence- that rejoin would win hands down. Easy, surely.

Better suggest it to Sir Keir.

Oh I am, we all are!

Allira Fri 14-Mar-25 22:58:49

Barleyfields

Despite voting to remain, I wouldn’t vote to rejoin.

😁

Mollygo Fri 14-Mar-25 23:28:16

Claremont

So, I have a great idea- let's put it to the vote asap and see. I am absolutely and totally confident, based on evidence- that rejoin would win hands down. Easy, surely.

And you can be smugly confident in saying that because unless it happens, it’s as unverifiable as saying Leave would win again, or that everyone would vote next time.
If it keeps you happy, then so be it.

It’s like saying Keir Starmer would have been better at coping with Covid.

There is no way that can be verified.