Still told to 'get over it, it's done.

Patience Strong platitudes 😆
I'd rather adopt that attitude - than blow a gasket every 5 minutes about something I can do nothing about.
DS used to argue with me 4 or 5 years ago that his engineering company had lost workers and jobs in Europe due to Brexit. Now, the company has launched into Saudi Arabia and the projects are flowing in. Every cloud to quote a well known Milton metaphor.

MaizieD
^I really wouldn't bother to argue the toss, Claremont. just leave them to their feelings of superiority and their Patience Strong platitudes.

Wow! Catty in the extreme and inaccurate about PS.

At least we know that the Leave voters among them won't be in the least bit bothered about moving closer to the EU, even possibly rejoining.

And you know this how?

What we remainers have to accept and move on from is the inertia and the feelings of superiority that they would win anyway, exhibited by all those who didn’t bother to vote.

I am glad for him- personally, I just would not be happy working with Saudi Arabia.

We were constantly told about a) majority was for Brexit - even it tiny, and that was 'democracy'. But now only 11% are in favour- 'democracy' has somehow become irrelevant.

We were constantly told that it was about 'Sovereignty' - despite having elected MEPs and sitting at top table making joint decisions, and being the only member with massive exceptions (Schengen and Sterling). And now all those who shouted 'Sovereignty' are quite happy to hand it all over to Trump, or others (would NOT wish the UK to be beholden to Saudis!). It is just bizarre.

Of course there is nothing I can do, personally- but we can put pressure on our PM and Government, to not roll over to Trump and instead consolitdate out relationship with the EU, not just commercially, but with security in mind in such difficult times.

Doodledog

*A situation which makes it even more frustrating and inexplicable when the Labour leadership resolutely rejects any proposition from the EU which would bring the UK closer.*

Ah. Would that be ‘getting over it’? Or ignoring ’the will of the people’?

Would it ‘bring the country to its knees’, or ‘push the economy off a cliff’?

Is it ‘common sense’? Or ‘flying in the face of democracy’?

Does anyone know anything anymore?

What about the will of those of us who voted in back in the 70s. I don't understand why it is fine to ignore that but the out vote is sacrosanct.

Claremont I asked unthread if you had a link or source for the 11% please…

www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10231417647058720&set=a.1297089001666&__cft__[0]=AZXlVsZboGN5yoIbo2HL6xZejd8OdzlKMaePGyetISFyFyhu3V-8yvzLDeNmPWW0UzC7rgtlPz9MFudatQ0Od8rofp9DZpJ1py76p9mr-BcyQaKkFpi6Z8gdT_SMwo3FpxjkuA4MkXH4pR910CNdWOFzP4PaeW4mbZYwv7_KuDG_bg&__tn__=EH-R

Didn't share before as some of you complain about FB links.

Yes please Claremont respond to GG13 - where did the 11% come from?? I know I wasn't asked, nor any members of my family or friends and we all know how polls can get it wrong. Just like the polls before the referendum

Invalid…

I am not on Facebook so even if it was valid I couldn’t access it.

Have you another source?

48/52 is not very clear, I agree.

89% IS VERY CLEAR.

Mollygo

MaizieD
^I really wouldn't bother to argue the toss, Claremont. just leave them to their feelings of superiority and their Patience Strong platitudes.

Wow! Catty in the extreme and inaccurate about PS.

At least we know that the Leave voters among them won't be in the least bit bothered about moving closer to the EU, even possibly rejoining.

And you know this how?

What we remainers have to accept and move on from is the inertia and the feelings of superiority that they would win anyway, exhibited by all those who didn’t bother to vote.

Good post Mollygo.
The essence of this thread appeared to be a discussion about the cliché/idiom/slogan get over it. Several interesting points were made about the usage of upbeat sayings taken from song lyrics and literature. Then along comes a sneery post about feelings of superiority!

Claremont

48/52 is not very clear, I agree.

89% IS VERY CLEAR.

Who carried out this poll?

Is it just some random Facebook one, if you post where it is from we can look for ourselves.

One minute we're told we aren't supposed to believe what we see on FB as much is AI generated and fake news, the next it's the Gospel?

Fakebook: why Facebook makes the fake news problem inevitable
nilq.qub.ac.uk/index.php/nilq/issue694-article2

The link to Facebook

escaped

The link to Facebook

Thank you

If it's genuine?

Better to look at the actual link, if you wish, but to remember that this is not a totally representative cross-section of the whole British public.

55% of Britons now say it was wrong for the UK to leave the EU, with just 11% seeing Brexit as more of a success than a failure

yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/51484-how-do-britons-feel-about-brexit-five-years-on

It's how you tell 'em!
(That's not Patience Strong, btw)

I think 2225 people were asked.

maddyone

Mamie

Well if we have to get over Brexit, then clearly people have to get over constantly complaining about the Labour government. I look forward to that.

The vote was nearly nine years ago. We left five years ago.
The Labour Party have been in power for seven months.
Spot the difference *Mamie? *

The difference as I see it is that Brexit has had a long time to see through teething troubles and show its mettle, whereas the new government has not. Yet there are countless threads and even more posts whinging about the fact that 14 years of Tory mismanagement have not been rectified overnight, but if anyone points out that part of the reason for the intractable nature of some of the economic blight is Brexit they are accused of 'bleating' and an inability to ;get over it'.

That's quite a difference.

I can’t believe that anyone would post as fact something they read on FB, and expect others to believe it. No credibility whatsoever.

Thank you Mollygo -the “Patience Strong platitudes” comments are entirely out of order - sneery hardly comes come close.
Following on from escaped ‘s reference to suffering and Viktor Frankl, it may be of interest to look at the writing of another Auschwitz survivor who became a renowned psychotherapist, Edith Eger who said in one of her inspiring books
You can't change what happened, you can't change what you did or what was done to you. But you can choose how you live now
Moving on is the only way.

Allira

One minute we're told we aren't supposed to believe what we see on FB as much is AI generated and fake news, the next it's the Gospel?

Fakebook: why Facebook makes the fake news problem inevitable
nilq.qub.ac.uk/index.php/nilq/issue694-article2

You have to larf! 😂

RosieandherMaw

Thank you Mollygo -the “Patience Strong platitudes” comments are entirely out of order - sneery hardly comes come close.
Following on from escaped ‘s reference to suffering and Viktor Frankl, it may be of interest to look at the writing of another Auschwitz survivor who became a renowned psychotherapist, Edith Eger who said in one of her inspiring books
You can't change what happened, you can't change what you did or what was done to you. But you can choose how you live now
Moving on is the only way.

👏 👏 👏

Well said, Rosie. The dignified words of people who had far more to complain about than Brexit put the Brexit moaners to shame.

If 55% now say Brexit was wrong

Does than imply 45% do not.

I get only 11% saying it is a success, as there are many things that haven’t happened yet.

escaped

I think 2225 people were asked.

How were those 2,225 people selected?

Randomly or because they had shown previous interest in other polls to do with membership of the EU?

Barleyfields YouGov is a reputable firm but does reward pollsters.
The 11% headline on FB is not the whole story by any means. It's attention-grabbing.
The whole sentence was:
55% of Britons now say it was wrong for the UK to leave the EU, with just 11% seeing Brexit as more of a success than a failure

The person posting that could equally have written:
55% of Britons now say it was wrong for the UK to leave the EU
Which seems realistic and absolutely believable.