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Trump has been busy with his plan for Gaza!

(133 Posts)
Sago Wed 05-Feb-25 07:44:05

So Gaza is going to become the new Riviera.

It’s a crazy plan but nothing else has worked.

Oreo Wed 05-Feb-25 20:16:25

It would indeed petra
Maybe they can help rebuild Gaza instead.The fact is that particular sect want it all, but from the comfort of the sofa.

Wyllow3 Wed 05-Feb-25 20:53:35

People in Israel may have a range of views as expressed above,

but the relevant point here is that Netanyahu stood next to Trump last night,
and as things stand atm, supported the plan for the forcible removal of Palestinians from Gaza.

That is ethnic cleansing.

Backed by, in addition

" Far-right Israeli minister commends Trump's Gaza plan".

“Israel’s far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich commended a plan presented by United States President Donald Trump to remove Palestinians from Gaza and take ownership of the strip”

From CNN's Michael Schwartz and Mostafa Salem)

Claremont Wed 05-Feb-25 21:03:25

Orthodox Jews are NOT a 'sect'.

Many Christians are also consciencious objectors- because of this is what the Bible has taught them.

meddijess Thu 06-Feb-25 17:11:57

The Palestinians voted for Hamas, and have shown no signs of ending their support for them. Hamas are vile and have no respect for human life, especially Jewish life. Why would Israel want them to continue to live in Gaza? Other Arab countries do not want Palestinians - that is the main problem, and I cannot see how Trump's plan can work.

RSALLAN2002 Thu 06-Feb-25 17:34:58

Netanyahu seemed to me like ventriloquist Trump's dummy when they appeared together. Or was it the other way round?

Claremont Thu 06-Feb-25 18:15:14

Both ways! One just smirked more than even the other.

Wyllow3 Thu 06-Feb-25 18:32:17

meddijess

The Palestinians voted for Hamas, and have shown no signs of ending their support for them. Hamas are vile and have no respect for human life, especially Jewish life. Why would Israel want them to continue to live in Gaza? Other Arab countries do not want Palestinians - that is the main problem, and I cannot see how Trump's plan can work.

I feel there are possibly a large number of Palestinians, after what has happened, who are not happy with Hamas, but who could come out and say so?

There are great dangers in conflating being Palestinian with being Hamas, as you appear to be

Hamas are vile
All Palestinians support them
Therefore all Palestinians are vile?

Why should they continue to live in Gaza?

Its their home.

Anniebach Thu 06-Feb-25 18:47:30

I haven’t read of allegations that Netanyahu and Trump smirked , this is serious, it will definitely change views

foxie48 Thu 06-Feb-25 18:51:09

Trump has strengthened Netanyahu's hand, I'll be very surprised if the hostages get released and the ceasefire holds for much longer (but I live in hope!) Trump's position will be taken by the far right in Israel (Smotrich, Ben Givr et al) as a signal of support and it's bringing the Arab countries closer. This is a recipe for a longer war not a long term peace.

Wyllow3 Thu 06-Feb-25 18:51:21

Not sure what facial expression is appropriate for such a crazy and unworkable plan....

Wyllow3 Thu 06-Feb-25 18:53:03

foxie48

Trump has strengthened Netanyahu's hand, I'll be very surprised if the hostages get released and the ceasefire holds for much longer (but I live in hope!) Trump's position will be taken by the far right in Israel (Smotrich, Ben Givr et al) as a signal of support and it's bringing the Arab countries closer. This is a recipe for a longer war not a long term peace.

Yes, this is my concern, it will crash the peace, and it may be the intention. Threatening a whole population with ethnic cleansing isn't a great way forward in international relationships.

madeleine45 Thu 06-Feb-25 19:04:59

Now , I keep getting a sense of Deja Vieu. Wasnt there someone else who years ago, decided to take over someone elses country for his own gains.?? Come to think of it , he also spouted evil rubbish against people for their race, religion, or managed to use various lies and invented reasons, to let him carry on with his evil ways.

Now his name is on the tip of my tongue . I'm pretty sure that his name began with A. Oh yes , it was Adolph and we have just been remembering what his dreadful and crazy ideas led to when we looked at the concentration camps . Yes I thought I had heard appalling arrogance, lies, and seen how previously, despite what was being said, nobody stopped him for a very long time. Perhaps the people who ,hopefully in the future ,will be ashamed of actually voting for him, might come to their senses and get rid of him before he does any more damage!!

To think that this deranged self important person, whose view of life is ME ME ME , and is prepared to ignore everyone else , with the manical view that if he says something it must happen, is supposed to be trusted with directing the way things will happen in this world. God help us all

Iam64 Thu 06-Feb-25 19:09:38

Many Jewish people in the UK are talking about going to Israel to get away from anti semitism. More like the 1930’s every day

Anniebach Thu 06-Feb-25 19:21:40

Quote Iam64 Thu 06-Feb-25 19:09:38
Many Jewish people in the UK are talking about going to Israel to get away from anti semitism. More like the 1930’s every day

Lily Ebert,, a victim of the Holocaust, warned last year that
‘It could happened again’

Claremont Thu 06-Feb-25 19:25:50

Anniebach

I haven’t read of allegations that Netanyahu and Trump smirked , this is serious, it will definitely change views

Did you not watch them? Netanyahu just smirked.

Mojack26 Thu 06-Feb-25 19:34:46

What!?? You agree with him??

susytish Fri 07-Feb-25 07:22:49

It beggars belief that they talk of what to do with Gaza but not why and how it got flattened. The US gave money to bomb it, with the help of other countries, including us.
Talk about why there have been no elections in Gaza.
The intention always was to have a Greater Israel.
There is a difference between Jews and Zionists.
I can't believe Israel didn't know October 7th was planned.

Anniebach Fri 07-Feb-25 08:01:04

Zionists are Jews, to say differently is denial,

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 07-Feb-25 08:16:17

Not all Jews are Zionists. I know some who are not.

Anniebach Fri 07-Feb-25 08:18:10

Zionists are Jews

wibblywobblywobblebottom Fri 07-Feb-25 11:49:54

Its called ethnic cleansing.

Anniebach Fri 07-Feb-25 12:03:03

Jews certainly know about ethnic cleansing, been happening to
them for centuries

Wyllow3 Fri 07-Feb-25 12:17:53

Thats why I can't understand why some - I emphasis some - are prepared to countenance it in Palestine.

AuntieE Fri 07-Feb-25 12:35:47

I very much doubt that any Arab country will suddenly be willing to house refugees from Gaza, even if these people should want suddenly to have to move to Egypt, Jordan or anywhere else.

So, I think this is just one more of Trump's ideas that have no real basis for being adopted.

Anniebach Fri 07-Feb-25 12:41:43

I am surprised so many find Trump a man of his word