Farage. Well he’s Top of the Pops right now! 😂

Doodledog why ask Barleyfields or me to discuss what a Reform government would look like when we have both stated that we’re not fans.

I wasn't. I was disagreeing with the idea that this thread is a discussion, and asking that it might become one - with contributions from anyone who wants to offer them.

Rula

I think that it's a minority of people who take deep interest in politics.

These people possibly like Nigel Farage because he's able to talk. Simple as that. He sounds interesting. He is able to speak without notes . He's affable .

We have Keir who is downright boring. Shocking speaking voice. Rachel, another awful one. Rishi was dreadful as well.

So some will listen to Nigel and like him because he doesn't sound like a robot and that's one reason why he's popular.

His opponents do themselves no favours by calling him a racist and misogynist, common, not common, etc etc. They can't bring themselves to look at a picture of him! Hardly mature arguments.

You can't win by insulting people who vote reform. In fact you're more likely to push them into voting for them. Human nature.

I wouldn't vote Reform but it's fine if others do.

And one more thing, this constant asking those who support Reform what they'd do if they got voted in.

Who knows? After all Labour promised many things but it's all been a bit of a disaster.

Excellent post Rula…..👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

maddyone

AGAA4

Despite being 'posh' Farage is also very false. He should get an Oscar for his acting skills.
He tells people what they want to hear that he will make Britain great again. How will he do that? Does anybody know?

Does he really?
I confess I’ve never heard Farage say he’s going to make Britain great again.
Maybe I’m not listening to him enough because I only ever hear him occasionally on the news, or during Prime Minister’s questions in Parliament. I think he spoke this week, but he didn’t say he was going to make Britain great again. Not that I heard anyway.

Anyway, I thought Great Britain referred to the land mass of England, Scotland, and Wales! I always thought it was a geographical description, not a description of how wonderful we all are

Wonderful we all might be 😁 but yes, Great Britain is a geographical term. As is The British Isles.

Whitewavemark2

Doodledog

Oreo

Barleyfields

Why are you here then MayBee? Why am I here because like the majority I’m not a member of the fan club either.

Neither am I, but nobody has to come on here just to agree with the OP do they? Say what you think, it’s a discussion.

It's not a discussion though. It's people throwing insults and laughing emojis.

Can we discuss what a Reform government would look like, please, and how NF would go about achieving his aims? Not in vague meaningless slogans though, but policies.

There is a reason that this thread is as it is, - it’s because Farage’s supporters don’t know what or how Reform would govern.

So nothing else to say except throw insults😄😄😄😄

Doodledog why ask Barleyfields or me to discuss what a Reform government would look like when we have both stated that we’re not fans.

Whitewavemark2 you are as guilty as anyone at throwing insults and using laughing emojis btw.

maddyone

AGA44 understood 👍

But others must address your question, because I don’t think anyone will make Britain ‘great’ again, especially our current government, who are doing their best to ensure Britain is certainly not ‘great’ in my humble opinion.

I agree. This country is very diminished.

maddyone

AGAA4

Despite being 'posh' Farage is also very false. He should get an Oscar for his acting skills.
He tells people what they want to hear that he will make Britain great again. How will he do that? Does anybody know?

Does he really?
I confess I’ve never heard Farage say he’s going to make Britain great again.
Maybe I’m not listening to him enough because I only ever hear him occasionally on the news, or during Prime Minister’s questions in Parliament. I think he spoke this week, but he didn’t say he was going to make Britain great again. Not that I heard anyway.

Anyway, I thought Great Britain referred to the land mass of England, Scotland, and Wales! I always thought it was a geographical description, not a description of how wonderful we all are

He has said it. You can even buy the T-shirt emblazoned with it, if you’re that way inclined.
www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/nigel-farage-says-reform-will-make-britain-great-again-in-nod-to-donald-trump/ar-AA1wVwmc

AGA44 understood 👍

But others must address your question, because I don’t think anyone will make Britain ‘great’ again, especially our current government, who are doing their best to ensure Britain is certainly not ‘great’ in my humble opinion.

maaddyone I don't think the USA was ever referred to as Great America either. Saying make Britain great again was just a quip on my part as Farage seems to think he can make huge improvements to our country. I ask again how to those of you who support him.?

Churchview

Claremont

Kay Burley certainly did NOT get an answer in her recent interview- he avoided replying time and time again.

www.facebook.com/watch/?v=583319325500073

Repeatedly fails to answer a simple question.

If anyone finds the Kay Burley one to share, I'd be grateful.

Rula
Excellent post at 16.06 today.

I think Farage’s ‘man of the people’ persona is intended to appeal more to men Chocolatelovinggran. The sort of bloke you might have a pint down the pub with and a fag outside. If he’s serious about his political future he will have to adapt that to appeal to the laydeez (although it seems he’s already appealed to some).

Top of the Pops right now is Messy by Lola Young.
Lyrics

"I smoke like a chimney
'Cause I'm too messy and then I'm too f***ing clean
You told me get a job then you ask where the hell I've been
And I'm too perfect 'til I open my big mouth
I want to be me, is that not allowed?
And I'm too clever and then I'm too f***ing dumb
You hate it when I cry unless it's that time of the month
And I'm too perfect 'til I show you that I'm not
A thousand people I could be for you and you hate the f***ing lot
You hate the f***ing lot
You hate the f***ing lot
You hate, you hate

Farage could be top of the Pops right now. It's not really something to aspire to.

I have met Mr Farage and felt that his man - of - the - people act was false, but, then, I am a woman, and ( oh dear) a former working mother.

AGAA4

Despite being 'posh' Farage is also very false. He should get an Oscar for his acting skills.
He tells people what they want to hear that he will make Britain great again. How will he do that? Does anybody know?

Does he really?
I confess I’ve never heard Farage say he’s going to make Britain great again.
Maybe I’m not listening to him enough because I only ever hear him occasionally on the news, or during Prime Minister’s questions in Parliament. I think he spoke this week, but he didn’t say he was going to make Britain great again. Not that I heard anyway.

Anyway, I thought Great Britain referred to the land mass of England, Scotland, and Wales! I always thought it was a geographical description, not a description of how wonderful we all are

Allira

I can never access the Telegraph.

So I happily read The Mail and the Guardian online.
I'm either a fence sitter or well-balanced, take your pick.

Me too.
I refuse to pay for the tripe that most newspapers write.
Most of my actual news comes from the BBC, SkyNews, and ITV news. Sometimes I even have a little foray into GBNews

Claremont

Kay Burley certainly did NOT get an answer in her recent interview- he avoided replying time and time again.

www.facebook.com/watch/?v=583319325500073

Repeatedly fails to answer a simple question.

"His opponents do themselves no favours by calling him a ........ misogynist"

Here are Farage's own words -
“Maybe it's because I've got so many women pregnant over the years that I have a different view [of maternity leave].” "Working mothers are worth less than men"

I also remember his "Andrew Tate is an important voice for men" written alongside a photo of him making a thumbs up sign alongside the self proclaimed misogynist, accused rapist and people trafficker Tate.

Also not a fan of continued support of blood sports.

Sometimes posters raise things because they're the truth...not to curry favour.

Kay Burley certainly did NOT get an answer in her recent interview- he avoided replying time and time again.

These people possibly like Nigel Farage because he's able to talk. Simple as that. He sounds interesting. He is able to speak without notes . He's affable

He also answers the question. It may not be what some folk wish to hear but at least you get an answer.

In a democratic society 'common' MPs whether they be Farage or Rayner (not that I would call either of them common) are entirely entitled to go about their business as a posh MP.

A flood of Eton educated boys have been running the country (into the ground) for years and so I'm happy to give people who use serviettes and fish knives a chance to see if it gets us anywhere better.

Allira

Syracute

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I think I found this article quite a surprising one considering its not the Telegraph or he Daily Mail. Something is definitely shifting.

It is hardly a solid newspaper . It is just peddling to a certain mindset .

What exactly do you define as a certain mindset?
That is very vague.

What is the political stance of The Independent newspaper?
^It has been seen as leaning to the left-wing of the political spectrum, making it more a competitor to The Guardian; however, The Independent tends to take a liberal, pro-market stance on economic issues. The Independent on Sunday referred to itself as a "proudly liberal newspaper".^

The i is owned by the dmg. It is separate from the Independent, which is now digital-only.

Allira

vintage1950

I thought that Farage went to a public school. But that's by the way. Can't stand him myself.

Dulwich College. His father was a stockbroker.

Hardly common, in fact what my DM would term 'posh' 😁

Definitely not “common”.

“common” is 💯 Angela Rayner. No comparison.

Rulayour post of 16.06.09 👏👏👏

Interesting post, Rula, food for thought.

It obviously isn’t against the law or the Electoral Commission would have had something to say. I imagine this is a short term strategy but, not being a member or supporter, I have no idea. It’s certainly novel.