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Farage. Well he’s Top of the Pops right now! šŸ˜‚

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 06-Feb-25 20:59:23

This tonight, from the ā€˜i’ newspaper (that I also now subscribe to, not just The Telegraph!) ….

ā€œNigel Farage stood up at Prime Minister’s Questions on Wednesday to hostile silence. Squashed together in the Commons, MPs from other parties glowered at him, and then delighted as he appeared to fluff his lines when asking a question about the Chagos Islands.

Behind the scenes it is a different story, with individual MPs from other parties queuing up to ask the Reform UK leader to sign House of Commons wine bottles and drinks coasters for family members and constituents who are fans of his brand of straight-talking populism. It’s not clear whether those MPs acknowledge the cognitive dissonance involved.

There’s no doubt Reform is having a moment. On average, the last half-dozen polls have put the party on 25 per cent, putting it equal first with Labour. Three of those polls put the party in the lead, either solely or in tandem with Labour.

It’s causing tangible jitters among both Labour and Conservative MPs. At PMQs, Farage accused them of ā€œpanic.ā€

This week a group of around 40 Labour MPs from ā€œRed Wallā€ seats in the north of England called for Sir Keir Starmer to send a stronger message on immigration as they seek to see off the threat from Farage and his crew ahead of local elections in May.

Behind the scenes, other Labour MPs have requested training sessions from No 10 on how to deal with Reform in their areas. ā€œIt really troubles them,ā€ a Labour source said.ā€

C’mon REFORM!

vintage1950 Fri 07-Feb-25 14:41:46

I thought that Farage went to a public school. But that's by the way. Can't stand him myself.

Barleyfields Fri 07-Feb-25 14:41:22

I certainly wouldn’t class Farage as common. He puts on his ā€˜man of the people’ act to good effect, as did Johnson, but he’s a very astute man who’s made a lot of money.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 07-Feb-25 14:40:46

I recently discovered that Baroness Ros Altmann, the so-called 'Conservative' Pensions Minister, was actually a card-carrying Labour member while in office. No wonder she’s now colluding with Labour to confiscate private sector workers’ pension pots.

Mr Farage is absolutely right—the uniparty is real. This latest election cancellation just reinforces what we already know: collusion in Westminster is rife, and they’re not scheming to protect your interests.

Whatever you think of Farage, he's right that cancelling the local elections is undemocratic, and a pathetic decision by this hopeless government to delay the obvious, that Labour will suffer unprecedented losses when they finally happen.

Tinkering with the boundaries, which is gerrymandering by stealth, will only deepen resentment and a determination for revenge

GrannyGravy13 Fri 07-Feb-25 14:37:21

Nine areas have postponed their May elections.

The Government said the timing of the May elections affected their planning for devolution, particularly alongside the reorganisation of local government šŸ¤”

Kandinsky Fri 07-Feb-25 14:37:10

Hahaha.
The left looking down their noses at ā€˜common people’

Sounds about right.

Allira Fri 07-Feb-25 14:36:39

MayBee70

My decluttering isn’t going very well at the moment! sad

You'd feel better if you saw mine.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 07-Feb-25 14:35:22

Reform will hit over 200,000 members within days. What Rayner and Starmer have done by cancelling upcoming local elections is truly appalling.

Allira Fri 07-Feb-25 14:35:16

Barleyfields

How do you think Reform could possibly form a functioning government FGT? What expertise and experience can they bring to the table? Farage has a lot to say for himself but he couldn’t run the country on his own and he can’t appoint a cabinet of people who are not MPs or peers, unlike Trump.

Well, there's a sensible question.

Surely posters are capable of challenging Farage supporters without going into a meltdown and threatening to flounce?

Barlryfields, despite Farage 'talking the talk' and constantly seeking the limelight he does not have enough experience of politics because, when he was an MEP, he was rarely at the European Parliament and now he is an MP he's rarely in Parliament representing his constituents, nor even in his constituency.
Becoming an MP was just a platform for him to gain publicity, it was not through a desire to represent the people of Clacton.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Fri 07-Feb-25 14:28:41

Labour lost 3 seats to Reform yesterday in local elections. Medway Council was one.

MayBee70 Fri 07-Feb-25 14:24:38

My decluttering isn’t going very well at the moment! sad

Allira Fri 07-Feb-25 14:19:38

MayBee70

Because people whose values I despise seem to have taken over the forum…to e honest I don’t think gransnet is the place these days for pearl clutchers like me.

Other threads are available.

You could help me declutter.

Allira Fri 07-Feb-25 14:15:46

Doodledog

Sago

I wonder how long it will take Starmer to lower the voting age to 16?

I read somewhere vague and unverifiable that this will happen in 17 months, 2 weeks and 3 days, but it will only apply to those who sign using their granny’s blood that they will always vote Labour.

HTH.

It's 16 in Wales for the Senedd and local government elections.

Allira Fri 07-Feb-25 14:10:53

Well, the dictionary definition of common is not the same as my mother's definition. Perhaps it's a regional thing.

Oreo Fri 07-Feb-25 14:10:01

To quote Sherlock Holmes Allira ā€˜this could be a three pipe problemā€™šŸ¤”

Thepanaramawoman Fri 07-Feb-25 14:08:09

BlueBelle and MayBe70 thank you. Me too.

Allira Fri 07-Feb-25 14:07:33

Whitewavemark2

I simply can’t get beyond the spiv second hand car salesman image I have of him who is not adverse to fraud and lies in fact another pound shop Trump.

If I understood his policies, I perhaps would see him more as a politician, but apart from the boats, I haven’t a clue what or how he intends to achieve anything.

His parliamentary performance is dismal and his constituency work even worse.

Call me a snob - but he is so commonšŸ˜„.

Farage would not fit my (or my mother's) definition of common Whitewave but he would certainly fit her definition of a spiv.

In fact, I think I posted that a couple of weeks ago šŸ˜€

Boz Fri 07-Feb-25 14:01:26

To be an Influencer is important nowadays; Reform won't win but they will make a difference to the next GE.

It is so common to call people common, don't you know.

Oreo Fri 07-Feb-25 14:00:41

Oreo

I think it means crack as in drugs Allira

Am no expert tho is knowing what Claremont means šŸ¤”

Allira Fri 07-Feb-25 14:00:12

Oreo

I think it means crack as in drugs Allira

So does that mean anyone who starts a thread praising Farage is thought to be on drugs? Surely not?!
confused

Oreo Fri 07-Feb-25 13:58:46

Syracute

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I think I found this article quite a surprising one considering its not the Telegraph or he Daily Mail. Something is definitely shifting.

It is hardly a solid newspaper . It is just peddling to a certain mindset .

The thing is Syracute that it’s exactly that kind of lofty thinking that loses elections.
Loving ā€˜the common man’ in theory but shuddering at them in practice then wondering what went wrong in referendums and
Elections.

Oreo Fri 07-Feb-25 13:55:38

I think it means crack as in drugs Allira

Syracute Fri 07-Feb-25 13:55:27

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I think I found this article quite a surprising one considering its not the Telegraph or he Daily Mail. Something is definitely shifting.

It is hardly a solid newspaper . It is just peddling to a certain mindset .

Allira Fri 07-Feb-25 13:54:09

MayBee70

Claremont

Talk about being really, really über GOADY, on crack!

Claremont; we're not allowed to comment on this thread. It's only for members of the Reform/Farage/Trump fan club.

I've been out so missed most of the post- who told you on no account must you post on here if you're not a Farage or Trump supporter?

I did and I'm neither. Oh dear. Oops 😯

Claremont what do you mean by crack?
Did you mean craic, if so I think you may have spelt it wrong.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 07-Feb-25 13:52:54

Whitewavemark2 I have met Nigel Farage, he is definitely not common

Oreo Fri 07-Feb-25 13:48:54

Whitewavemark2

I simply can’t get beyond the spiv second hand car salesman image I have of him who is not adverse to fraud and lies in fact another pound shop Trump.

If I understood his policies, I perhaps would see him more as a politician, but apart from the boats, I haven’t a clue what or how he intends to achieve anything.

His parliamentary performance is dismal and his constituency work even worse.

Call me a snob - but he is so commonšŸ˜„.

Why is he common? Are you a snob?
He’s a business man turned politician who’s done very nicely from those jobs.I think like a lot of politicians he says things that he thinks people want to hear and has no sincerity whatsoever and I wouldn’t support him or his Party.
That said, Reform are a big threat to the Conservatives and I can’t see them joining forces just yet, but if support for Reform continues building they’ll be a force to be reckoned with.