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Want to understand what Trump is doing? Part 2

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 13-Feb-25 11:24:20

The other filled up very swiftly - so I assume a need for it’s continuation.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 17-Feb-25 17:31:01

imaround

JD Vance is an investor in an app that helps foreign buyers buy farmland in the US.

hmm

We have Bill Gates and Blackrock CEO going after the farmland here in the UK.

Both friends of our PM

HousePlantQueen Mon 17-Feb-25 18:03:41

You are surely not comparing Bill Gates and Blackrock (previous director one George Osborne) to the potential catastrophic failure of the USA farming system?

GrannyGravy13 Mon 17-Feb-25 18:14:44

HousePlantQueen

You are surely not comparing Bill Gates and Blackrock (previous director one George Osborne) to the potential catastrophic failure of the USA farming system?

Just pointing out that both are actively purchasing land including farmland, land with planning permission, and anything they fancy here in the U.K.

It’s up to individuals what conclusions they draw…

imaround Mon 17-Feb-25 18:29:57

Bill Gates and Blackrock are doing the same thing Musk qnd everyone else is doing. Buying to land to rent back to the serfs.

Just because one is more of a philanthropist then the other means nothing.

I am off to participate in some civil disobedience. Be back tonight.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 17-Feb-25 18:44:13

imaround

Bill Gates and Blackrock are doing the same thing Musk qnd everyone else is doing. Buying to land to rent back to the serfs.

Just because one is more of a philanthropist then the other means nothing.

I am off to participate in some civil disobedience. Be back tonight.

Stay out of trouble, keep safe

Elegran Mon 17-Feb-25 18:58:54

imaround

Musk and his hackers now have access to every single tax filers information. He has accessed the IRS.

One of the many organisations where people are being fired at a moment's notice is the National Park Service. Their FB page comments is full of posts from people either fired at a moment's notice or scared stiff because they are expecting to be at any moment. anyone with less than 2 years service is known as a "probationer" and is fair game. Posts include advice to download as much of your personal file as you can - performance reviews, pay facts, interactions with collegues and siperiors - while you can, printing it out because emails could be blocked, and if it goes to litigation you may need all the facts.

People in other organisations in the line of fire will be feeling the same and hurriedly trying to salvage what they can of their working history.

There are/will be a lot of protests on Presidents' Day at noon - though they probably won't be mentioned on mainstream media. "The 50501 Movement has planned protests at all 50 state capitols and the U.S. Capitol on Presidents’ Day at noon. While mainstream media isn’t covering the event, many YouTubers have stepped up to provide coverage. With the White House restricting media access to those that align with its narrative, it’s likely that this is why these protests are being ignored"

www.facebook.com/AltUSNationalParkService

Elegran Mon 17-Feb-25 19:17:46

Federal workers incensed by performance language in termination letters
eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/17/fired-federal-workers-performance-language-doge/78886104007/

"Termination letters shared by a U.S. Department of Education employee, a U.S. Department of Agriculture employee, a Natural Resources Conservation Service worker and four workers for the U.S. Forest Service all state that probationary employees must demonstrate why it’s in “the public interest for the Government to finalize their appointment to the civil service.”

“The Agency finds, based on your performance, that you have not demonstrated that your further employment at the Agency would be in the public interest,” the letters continue. The workers interviewed by USA TODAY said they had good performance records.

An employee with the U.S. Department of Transportation also shared a termination letter with nearly identical language. A letter sent by the Small Business Administration to a fired probationary employee has different language but still mentions performance.

“You have failed to demonstrate fitness for continued federal employment,” the SBA letter reads. “The Agency finds that you are not fit for continued employment because your ability, knowledge and skills do not fit the Agency’s current needs, and your performance has not been adequate to justify further employment at the Agency.”

Fired U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs data scientist Elena Moseyko was incensed to see that her termination letter mentioned her performance. Moseyko said she has “an excellent performance record” and plans to challenge her dismissal.

“This was an illegal termination,” Moseyko said, adding: “They terminated thousands of people, and thousands of people cannot possibly all have bad performance. It’s not possible. So basically this is illegal.”

Chris Johnson, who was fired from his job in Arizona with the Natural Resources Conservation Service, believes that highlighting his performance in the letter gives him grounds to challenge his termination because he can point to successful performance reviews.

“To me, that gives me legal grounds to appeal," he said."

HousePlantQueen Mon 17-Feb-25 19:32:03

imaround

Bill Gates and Blackrock are doing the same thing Musk qnd everyone else is doing. Buying to land to rent back to the serfs.

Just because one is more of a philanthropist then the other means nothing.

I am off to participate in some civil disobedience. Be back tonight.

Good luck and stay safe x

Wyllow3 Mon 17-Feb-25 21:25:44

This thread is valuable as an ongoing record!

somehow taking apart the national parks service seems astonishing - caring for the US's wonderful spaces 😭

Today what shocked me was DOGE (this is CNN report/quotes)

"Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency is seeking access to the Internal Revenue Service’s highly sensitive taxpayer data system, a source familiar with the move told CNN."

it carries an astonishing amount of private individual's information that to date has been highly protected even from other employees of the Internal Revenue (also explained below- and Musk wants the lot.

Just imagine

"Included in the data that the IDRS allows authorized employees to access is Social Security numbers, bank account information, addresses, tax returns and other personally identifying data.

It also includes private information about taxpayers. For example, the IDRS includes information about taxpayers’ pending adoptions, so parents can claim dependency exemptions and child care credits.

The protocols are quite strict, preventing IRS employees from accessing their own files or files belonging to spouses, friends, relatives, co-workers or anyone with whom they have personal relationships or business dealings.

The IRS also prohibits snooping employees from accessing tax account information to satisfy personal curiosities.

Democratic senators

The senators explained that these prohibitions have historically safeguarded against political appointees in previous administrations gaining access to the private tax records of millions of Americans

This is 1984 on steroids.

Wyllow3 Mon 17-Feb-25 21:35:35

Hoping there is a good turnout today imaround

on demonstrations

(but I'm aware in some states there may be fears of reprisals and less numbers)

Babs03 Mon 17-Feb-25 22:03:44

eu.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/news/politics/2025/02/17/presidents-day-protests-rally-against-trump-administration-policies/78976704007/

Pics of protests so far.
Bless them all.
🌺🙏🏾

Wyllow3 Mon 17-Feb-25 22:08:39

Thank you. I like the way there are hand painted placards not some standard print out.

LizzieDrip Mon 17-Feb-25 22:11:50

Well done people of USA👏

Stay safe imaround!

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 17-Feb-25 22:22:01

Thank you, imaround. I hope that you are OK: please keep us up to date .

Babs03 Mon 17-Feb-25 22:23:47

Stay safe but strong imaround.
Solidarity 💪🏽✊🏽

imaround Mon 17-Feb-25 23:24:10

It wad an amazing turnout. Several thousand people turned out despite it being only 30F here today.

There was not a single media station there. Absolutely no coverage of the protests. Which means they aren't going to be effective.

I left feeling rather discouraged to be honest. I am not sure we can stop what is happening. Our last hope is the judiciary, because Congress and the Media have failed us.

PoliticsNerd Tue 18-Feb-25 00:16:55

Stay strong imaround. The news outlets could just as easily turn on Trump as the news of the outcomes of their actions grows. Remember you have a large number on GN rooting for democracy but even larger numbers in the UK abd around the world.

imaround Tue 18-Feb-25 00:19:41

We will have our ups and downs, I am sure. I am taking the night off and getting some sleep. Tomorrow will bring new confidence!

Wyllow3 Tue 18-Feb-25 00:30:13

I agree, not enough coverage - see what come out tomorrow, imaround. It really will take time for people to develop strategies against this unprecedented attacks.

Meanwhile Black Leaders raise concern about how Trump's early actions will impact Black Americans

Black faith and community leaders gathered at the Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal Church in Washington, DC, on Monday to call attention to what they characterise as “the deliberate attack on the progress and advancement” of Black Americans.

"“This nation right now is coordinating its power with White settler colonial nations. You know that Haitians can’t come here, but Afrikaners can,” said Lamar IV."

CNN.

Wyllow3 Tue 18-Feb-25 01:18:16

protest in Washington

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLCs1x9Nsiw

imaround Tue 18-Feb-25 05:39:59

I am seeing some news footage tonight from around the country. We had a minor medical emergency with my son tonight, so I was able to get some perspective.

Tomorrow, I will continue to fight for my kids rights and future. They are worth it.

imaround Tue 18-Feb-25 05:58:53

Found some news coverage through a local channel. Thought I would share.

It nay look nice out, but our skies will trick you. It was freezing cold here today.

www.denver7.com/news/politics/hundreds-gather-for-presidents-day-protest-against-trump-admin-at-colorado-state-capitol?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1bp_g6NoNpYCSYpYQwThcE7xb3f63nubvJf9p2wiga7D63XjIKoeKuLrM_aem_Hv2CQ7hjJcBqqpI01sGDMA

Elegran Tue 18-Feb-25 09:46:22

I don't remember seeing any posts from the pro-Trump faction on GN since Trump and Musk began dismantling the US governing structure. Are they beginning to see the reality of the situation in the US, or have they moved over to helping the demolition crew to swing the wrecking ball?

Cossy Tue 18-Feb-25 10:01:13

Wyllow3

Hoping there is a good turnout today imaround

on demonstrations

(but I'm aware in some states there may be fears of reprisals and less numbers)

I agree. Please stay safe imaround and please know many of us here across the pond are “virtually” standing with you flowers

Claremont Tue 18-Feb-25 11:03:22

And this is the result- when the leaders of your country encourage hate against certains groups- and anyone who has 'the look' becomes a 'valid target'

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