A view from the other side of the same side - Israel.

There has been a knife attack at a Holocaust Memorial in
Berlin

It is not a crime to be Jewish, Jews should be able to go about their daily lives without fear nor persecution.

They should not have to be constantly aware that a terrorist organisation had vowed not to rest until every single Jew is wiped of the planet.

Imagine if this was said about a Muslim, an African tribe, it would be called out for what it is blatant racism…

nanna8

Why are Jewish people afraid to admit they are Jewish ? Why are synagogues being burnt and defaced? Why are Jewish people being forced to move house ? This in their supposed place of refuge, Australia. Anti Semitism is most definitely a problem whatever take you have on the war.

I agree, it is so wrong. But what about Islamophobia, which is creating the very same conditions. How Palestinians, and Muslims all over the world, live with terrible prejudice and fear, all the time, and assimilated with Hamas and every attack perpetrated anywhere in the world.

Yes but

Claremont I doubt very much that Hamas is bothered in the slightest about Islamophobia.

If you were to widen your reading/viewing matter you would see that they still have just one aim which is to repeat the acts of 7/10/23 again and again in order to annihilate every Jew on the planet.

Rationally speaking that’s impossible (we hope) unfortunately Hamas operatives, its supporters along with its head honchos are not and never have been rational.

I didn’t know Muslims were suffering Pogroms , which countries ? certainly not the UK,

Anniebach

There has been a knife attack at a Holocaust Memorial in
Berlin

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GrannyGravy13

It is not a crime to be Jewish, Jews should be able to go about their daily lives without fear nor persecution.

They should not have to be constantly aware that a terrorist organisation had vowed not to rest until every single Jew is wiped of the planet.

Imagine if this was said about a Muslim, an African tribe, it would be called out for what it is blatant racism…

Oh but it is said about Muslims, with impunity, am not sure where you gave been for the past decade but Islamophobia is definitely the go-to choice of persecution in most western countries. Even on threads on this forum Muslims have been called barbaric, and not the same as people in the west. Imagine saying that about anyone who is Jewish it would called out and quite rightfully too.

Am correcting a couple of things just stated on this thread.
Claremont says that ‘Palestinians and Muslims all over the world live with terrible prejudice and fear all the time’….where?
Certainly not in all the many Muslim countries, and if they live in Europe they could do more ( their religious leaders at any rate) to publicly condemn extremism which would go a long way towards dispelling any prejudice towards them which in itself has come about from all the many Muslim extremist acts of great violence committed all round the world.
Jews in Europe have done nothing wrong but still encounter more prejudice and often downright hate from some quarters.
Babs03 says that ‘ even on threads on this forum Muslims have been called barbaric.’ No,they haven’t but their country/ culture has and in many cases it’s absolutely true.You have only to look at Afghanistan and Syria and Iran, Gaza and Lebanon and Yemen to know these are not our good liberal Western values.As women, or gay or non Muslim or anything a bit different and vulnerable how would you like to live in any of those countries I wonder.

GrannyGravy13

Claremont knows that the Facebook links she posts can only be accessed by GN members who have a Facebook account.

Limited audience.

You don't need a Facebook account. I have opened it.

If you have a iPhone you can copy and paste the link into a different browser if Safari won't open it.

👏👏👏👏Oreo the fastest growing faith of the major faiths
is Muslim faith, younger people joining and higher birth rates.

Not a faith being persecuted surely

Thanks Anniebach 😃

Oreo 'Certainly not in all the many Muslim countries, and if they live in Europe they could do more ( their religious leaders at any rate) to publicly condemn extremism which would go a long way towards dispelling any prejudice towards them which in itself has come about from all the many Muslim extremist acts of great violence committed all round the world.'

Yes, agreed. Just as Jews all over the world should condemn what Netanyahu is doing in Palestine. And very many do, very loudly and eloquently. But many support him all the way.

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Claremont your last sentence is disgusting.

Facts are facts…

A quick Google confirms Annibachs post that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the 21st century.

There is a survey by World Value Surveys in 57 countries showed that Muslims give birth to more children than other religions.

Higher virth (birth) rates- same words as in the 1930s- vermin breeding too fast. Sickening

The words are yours. Nobody here mentioned”vermin” did they?

No, they did in the 1930s! Linked to accusations of high birth rates.

RosieandherMaw I agree, dreadful way to describe a religious group.

Claremont

No, they did in the 1930s! Linked to accusations of high birth rates.

Are you disputing readily available facts?

Quote Claremont Sun 23-Feb-25 17:00:25
Anniebach
👏👏👏👏Oreo the fastest growing faith of the major faiths
is Muslim faith, younger people joining and higher birth rates.

Not a faith being persecuted surely
Why do you think that is?

Higher virth rates- same words as in the 1930s- vermin breeding too fast. Sickening.

Yes sickening, why say it , why do you have to do this ? What is the need ?

@ Claremont is it too much trouble to observe the accepted convention for quoting the words of others , ie “ “ marks round the quotation?
As it stands, the words were yours and yours alone.
There are good reasons for punctuation conventions- the principal one being clarity of expression and avoiding misunderstanding.

I remember same words used for Irish and Italian Catholics, not that long ago. Breeding like rabbits.

When one is in a hole, the advice I give is to stop digging.

Claremont said it because posters were denying that muslims face the same level of prejudice as jewish people. That vermin thing is real, someone on the Telegraph comments thought it very clever to coin "palevermin" for the citizens of Gaza. Post hadn't been taken down in 24 hrs.

GrannyGravy13

Claremont your last sentence is disgusting.

Facts are facts…

A quick Google confirms Annibachs post that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the 21st century.

There is a survey by World Value Surveys in 57 countries showed that Muslims give birth to more children than other religions.

You're surely not suggesting that Claremont said that statement I hope. She was clearly saying that it was said in the 30's and that she found it sickening..