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Yippee! Starmer embraces BREXIT freedoms! ✔️

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 22-Feb-25 20:44:48

Just now, in The Telegraph:

“Labour is considering scrapping legacy EU laws which are empowering big companies to “overcharge” shoppers and the NHS.

The Prime Minister has been urged to take advantage of Brexit freedoms to revoke the rules that impose an “artificial tax” on consumers.

Britain still follows EU trademark rules which prevent retailers and public services from shopping around the world for the cheapest goods.

The regulations give global brands total control over their supply chains meaning they can insist UK firms only buy from wholesalers in Europe.

An official impact assessment has found that as a result shoppers are paying inflated prices for goods like electronics, cosmetics, books and clothing.

Studies have suggested the restrictions are adding around 10 per cent to the price of branded products and costing the NHS hundreds of millions a year.“

This delights me!

Goldieoldie15 Tue 25-Feb-25 04:59:01

Brexit success?! Brexit disaster rather.

Chocolatelovinggran Tue 25-Feb-25 07:43:42

I don't know about you, Allira but I think that I know who Mr Gill is - a dodgy geezer.

Churchview Tue 25-Feb-25 08:51:48

"Going on threads to complain about the OP (both heading and poster) instead of ignoring the threads and starting other threads which might be more to there liking is all very odd."

Isn't that deplatforming?

glasshalffullagain Tue 25-Feb-25 09:33:39

I'll think you will find I can " go on" any thread I please and comment as I please. I don't have time to start threads about the appalling state we are in.

I do, however ,sometimes have 5 minutes in the day to look at this and that.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Feb-25 09:44:31

MayBee70

I don’t understand why so many of the people that bang on about how great the UK is, and how we’ve got our sovereignty back etc etc are so gleeful every time they think that the government have messed up in some way.

No glee from me MayBee70 just an overwhelming sense of disappointment.

I have been browsing (confined to barracks) our current PM’s pre-election promises.

No tax increases for working people
No IHT changes for farmers (said at an NFU meeting)
Freeze on energy costs.
No council tax rises.

That’s just a few…

Allira Tue 25-Feb-25 09:47:07

Chocolatelovinggran

I don't know about you, Allira but I think that I know who Mr Gill is - a dodgy geezer.

Good description!

Allira Tue 25-Feb-25 09:49:55

Churchview

*"Going on threads to complain about the OP (both heading and poster) instead of ignoring the threads and starting other threads which might be more to there liking is all very odd."*

Isn't that deplatforming?

Ridiculous post 😁

Allira Tue 25-Feb-25 09:53:44

Churchview

*"Going on threads to complain about the OP (both heading and poster) instead of ignoring the threads and starting other threads which might be more to there liking is all very odd."*

Isn't that deplatforming?

Sorry, I misunderstood. Please ignore my previous post.

Perhaps you mean by deplatforming all the attempts by several posters to stop posters such as FriedGreenTomatoes and nanna8 etc expressing their views.

This is a chat forum, of course, not the H of C!!

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Feb-25 09:57:47

All views and opinions are welcome on GN as long as they are within the guidlines

I do find the hounding of posters is becoming more frequent, something which I am uncomfortable with.

Debate the subject of the thread, not other posters.

BevSec Tue 25-Feb-25 10:42:40

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70

I don’t understand why so many of the people that bang on about how great the UK is, and how we’ve got our sovereignty back etc etc are so gleeful every time they think that the government have messed up in some way.

No glee from me MayBee70 just an overwhelming sense of disappointment.

I have been browsing (confined to barracks) our current PM’s pre-election promises.

No tax increases for working people
No IHT changes for farmers (said at an NFU meeting)
Freeze on energy costs.
No council tax rises.

That’s just a few…

And they said Boris was a liar!

Claremont Tue 25-Feb-25 10:48:19

GrannyGravy13

All views and opinions are welcome on GN as long as they are within the guidlines

I do find the hounding of posters is becoming more frequent, something which I am uncomfortable with.

Debate the subject of the thread, not other posters.

Oh yes, oh dear. I wish!

LizzieDrip Tue 25-Feb-25 10:57:40

Yes I wish too Claremont.

I was told off by a poster recently for putting flowers at the end of a post!

fancythat Tue 25-Feb-25 11:03:06

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70

I don’t understand why so many of the people that bang on about how great the UK is, and how we’ve got our sovereignty back etc etc are so gleeful every time they think that the government have messed up in some way.

No glee from me MayBee70 just an overwhelming sense of disappointment.

I have been browsing (confined to barracks) our current PM’s pre-election promises.

No tax increases for working people
No IHT changes for farmers (said at an NFU meeting)
Freeze on energy costs.
No council tax rises.

That’s just a few…

Oh gosh. I had no idea.

Cossy Tue 25-Feb-25 11:50:35

LizzieDrip

Yes I wish too Claremont.

I was told off by a poster recently for putting flowers at the end of a post!

Why???? thanksflowers grin

mrsmeldrew Tue 25-Feb-25 12:15:32

Mention on here about immigrants using ECHR - all countries in Europe are members with the exception of Russia and Belarus. Says it all really.

Every person in the UK has access to the judiciary and the day that is stopped is the day democracy dies.

LizzieDrip Tue 25-Feb-25 12:24:18

Cossy because, according to the poster, I keep putting flowers on my posts (🤷‍♀️) and on SM flowers are for sympathy. She even advised me what emoji I should use instead.

Needless to say I replied with courtesy and, of course, flowersflowersflowerswhich denote ‘thanks’ on GNsmile

Maremia Tue 25-Feb-25 15:30:32

Fessing up here. I would miss Fried's provocative posts on GN. Most Folk know what they are coming into when they click on them. It's important to delve into other viewpoints, and I always appreciate the well researched and classy rebutalls from WWM2 and many others. Okay, so I don't always name check, because the thread flows so quickly.
LizzieDrip flowers
BevSec, Johnson was a liar. Is that in dispute again?

MayBee70 Tue 25-Feb-25 15:47:05

Maremia

Fessing up here. I would miss Fried's provocative posts on GN. Most Folk know what they are coming into when they click on them. It's important to delve into other viewpoints, and I always appreciate the well researched and classy rebutalls from WWM2 and many others. Okay, so I don't always name check, because the thread flows so quickly.
LizzieDrip flowers
BevSec, Johnson was a liar. Is that in dispute again?

Even Johnson’s own party were in despair of him. He pretty much destroyed the Conservatives Party so I don’t understand why anyone would defend him or query the fact that he lied. I would hear him lie in parliament on a regular basis. I’ve spoken to Conservative Party members and MP’s and they don’t have a good word to say about him. When I criticise him it isn’t about being tribal about my own party but from seeing him as he really is and despising him for it.

Mollygo Tue 25-Feb-25 15:51:47

I’m happy to agree with/contribute to the criticisms of BJ. It’s just funny when justified criticism of KS et al are met with such defensive responses.

BevSec Tue 25-Feb-25 16:11:06

Maremia

Fessing up here. I would miss Fried's provocative posts on GN. Most Folk know what they are coming into when they click on them. It's important to delve into other viewpoints, and I always appreciate the well researched and classy rebutalls from WWM2 and many others. Okay, so I don't always name check, because the thread flows so quickly.
LizzieDrip flowers
BevSec, Johnson was a liar. Is that in dispute again?

Yes it is in dispute with me, .I am a huge supporter and I was pointing out that Starmer is a liar too. Is that in dispute?

Claremont Tue 25-Feb-25 16:27:34

Totally different scale and reasons! Did Starmer lie, overall, or did he come to the conclusion he could not deliver his promises because he inherited a diabolical situation. Very different.

glasshalffullagain Tue 25-Feb-25 16:31:35

What did you admire about BJ please?

MayBee70 Tue 25-Feb-25 17:05:39

GrannyGravy13

MayBee70

I don’t understand why so many of the people that bang on about how great the UK is, and how we’ve got our sovereignty back etc etc are so gleeful every time they think that the government have messed up in some way.

No glee from me MayBee70 just an overwhelming sense of disappointment.

I have been browsing (confined to barracks) our current PM’s pre-election promises.

No tax increases for working people
No IHT changes for farmers (said at an NFU meeting)
Freeze on energy costs.
No council tax rises.

That’s just a few…

I might not agree with you but posts are always well balanced and thoughtful GG13.

BevSec Tue 25-Feb-25 17:35:11

Claremont

Totally different scale and reasons! Did Starmer lie, overall, or did he come to the conclusion he could not deliver his promises because he inherited a diabolical situation. Very different.

The scale and reason are immaterial. Labour have repeated ad nauseam about the diabolical situation. I dont believe a word of it.

BevSec Tue 25-Feb-25 17:39:10

glasshalffullagain

What did you admire about BJ please?

I have replied to this on other threads, but basically he cared, is very intelligent, was a very effective and efficient leader, got Brexit done, got our vaccines sorted, and was the best PM since Churchill. All of this is, of course, is anathema to many on here!