Elections in Germany today

Wyllow3

That Fire Service Report was a shocking one - incidents of harassment widely reported - and definitely a case for encouraging diversity! Since it's a service where people are filtered and trained as to suitability/ability I don't see the problem with encouraging recruitment.

Yes, the Fire Service does have a problem which needs to be addressed.
Recruiting more female officers is not the answer.

Claremont

fingers crossed. Such worrying times.

The Extreme Right in Germany is so reminiscent of 1930s.

And bizarre too, as Weidel is a lesbian who lives with a foreign born non caucasian woman, with two adopted children, who live in ... Switzerland, and not Germany.

Personally I do not mind the sexual orientation of anyone, nor mariages with foreigners- but the Far Right certainly seems to.

But surely someone who aspires to be elected as President of a country, should be resident there!

Oh!

I thought they'd won.

But no, according to the news just on, the Centre-Right Christian Democrats have won.

Some voters supported the AFD.

Not as bad as I first thought, then.

"There will be no coalition with the AFD. We will never work with these people".

"... it is a known fact that men, due to hormonal development at puberty, are generally stronger than women and therefore more suited to physically demanding work." This sounds like someone writing in Jane Austin's time, Allira. You could just as easily started with "It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife'. Surely we have moved on from the early 1800s?

Research shows that while there are physiological differences between men and women, it is essential to recognize that strength and capability are not solely determined by gender. Environmental factors, training, and personal motivation play significant roles in physical performance. Many women excel in physically demanding roles, demonstrating that success in these fields is attainable for everyone, regardless of gender.

All you Trump haters have you seen what he has posted to Metz? On another note the AFD are the second largest party now and it is said Metz will need to do something about migration or the number of supporters for AFD will grow even more.

Allira

Claremont

fingers crossed. Such worrying times.

The Extreme Right in Germany is so reminiscent of 1930s.

And bizarre too, as Weidel is a lesbian who lives with a foreign born non caucasian woman, with two adopted children, who live in ... Switzerland, and not Germany.

Personally I do not mind the sexual orientation of anyone, nor mariages with foreigners- but the Far Right certainly seems to.

But surely someone who aspires to be elected as President of a country, should be resident there!

Oh!

I thought they'd won.

But no, according to the news just on, the Centre-Right Christian Democrats have won.

Some voters supported the AFD.

Not as bad as I first thought, then.

You do realise your spoiling someone’s gloom and doom party, don’t you 😂

Human Biology will give you the answers you need, PoliticsNerd.

But your post gave me a laugh anyway 😂😂😂

petra

Allira

Claremont

fingers crossed. Such worrying times.

The Extreme Right in Germany is so reminiscent of 1930s.

And bizarre too, as Weidel is a lesbian who lives with a foreign born non caucasian woman, with two adopted children, who live in ... Switzerland, and not Germany.

Personally I do not mind the sexual orientation of anyone, nor mariages with foreigners- but the Far Right certainly seems to.

But surely someone who aspires to be elected as President of a country, should be resident there!

Oh!

I thought they'd won.

But no, according to the news just on, the Centre-Right Christian Democrats have won.

Some voters supported the AFD.

Not as bad as I first thought, then.

You do realise your spoiling someone’s gloom and doom party, don’t you 😂

Heaven forbid that I should spoil someone's doom-fest with facts

Apologies!!

25Avalon

All you Trump haters have you seen what he has posted to Metz? On another note the AFD are the second largest party now and it is said Metz will need to do something about migration or the number of supporters for AFD will grow even more.

"It's been said", "Trump haters", "do something about immigration"

I wonder what you've been reading/watching 25Avalon?

MayBee70

I think that Europe has to acknowledge that people do worry about mass migration but without it being based on racism ( which does form the basis of many peoples beliefs but not everybody).To get a grip on migration will take away the life blood of far right parties if it’s done properly.

Yes agreed.

I can’t envisage any other party ever working with the AfD, and fundamentally that is their long term problem. They would have to get over 50% of the total vote to govern alone, and with the German democratic system, that isn’t going to happen. They gained under 8% more votes this election compared with 2017 if the poll predictions are correct, and they would need to gain over 30% more again to govern alone.

So storm in a teacup?

I think they will do their absolute best to disrupt proceedings, thwart change, and get publicity, so it’s not insignificant, but ultimately only 20% of voters want them, and nobody will work with them, so they won’t have a lot of influence.

They might, as Maybee suggested, encourage less extreme parties to get a grip on uncontrolled migration and lessen the appeal extreme parties have.

It does worry a lot of people, as Maybee says, not because they are necessarily racist but the concerns are real.

I don’t know enough about it to comment really, from what I’ve read the majority of migrants are in Western Germany, and the East is more deprived, depopulated and short of workers, which doesn’t tally with the east voting for the AfD because of migrants- unless it’s like the UK, where Reform strongholds are also in the East of England, which has similar issues. Does anybody know why the voting patterns are as they are in Germany?

Are the AFD proclaiming they will MGGA?

If voters feel let down, disgruntled, ignored, they might vote for a party which makes such promises.

Breakdown of the votes of the 18 - 24 y old demographic

For Linke 34% females 15% males

for AFD 14% females 25% males

The other parties got a roughly equal share of women's and men's votes from this demographic.

I wonder how the older voters break down

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I don’t know what AfD have promised, but there won’t be another election for four or five years now anyway, unless the coalition collapses.

Research shows that while there are physiological differences between men and women, it is essential to recognize that strength and capability are not solely determined by gender.
Agreed - so-called ‘gender’ is irrelevant. Biological differences are determined by sex.

Allira

They might, as Maybee suggested, encourage less extreme parties to get a grip on uncontrolled migration and lessen the appeal extreme parties have.

It does worry a lot of people, as Maybee says, not because they are necessarily racist but the concerns are real.

The problem is that imo racism is at the base of a lot of peoples attitude. Eg on almost every local nostalgia Facebook page I go on whatever the topic it doesn’t take long before someone starts spouting up about foreigners; usually when someone says their area is run down and has social problems. Which is basically due to lack of funding. If people had better access to dental care, GP appointments etc they wouldn’t be constantly complaining about immigrants. Get chatting to complete strangers and it often ends up with them changing the subject to foreigners ( had to get up and walk away from an old chap I was chatting to at a cafe in Beamish one day because he looked a bit lonely). Stopped going to my gym in the daytime because people were doing the same. Ditto when I was still working and the people in the waiting room were talking amongst themselves.

But strength and capability are not necessarily determined by either, Doodledog - except, I suppose, in the minds of the hard right and those who believe that "He made them, high or lowly, And ordered their estate."

Agreed, MayBee.

Racism is so much more socially acceptable now, and it’s worrying.

The people that talk that way just assume that everyone agrees with them We do have one friend who does the same ( we remain friends because he’s lovely in every other way and his dog was best friends with our previous dog); he has never noticed that we never respond to his comments. But I do think that people need to feel that immigration ( which we do need) is under control. Another thing that I think the government need to communicate better with the electorate about.

So 80.5% voters did not vote for the far right.

In todays news - there are just enough people elected for a coalition between the CSU and the SDP

Merz said

" the US has become "largely indifferent to the fate of Europe" and vows to strengthen the continent to "achieve real independence from the USA""

(BBC news feed).