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Trump’s tariffs. Now it’s the Republic of Ireland’s turn. ☘️

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 12-Mar-25 20:25:44

Trump. He certainly isn't Joe O'Biden.

Cossy Thu 13-Mar-25 09:36:00

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Oh I suppose time will tell.
America elected him to do this. Put America first. He’s looking after their interests.
Judge him after his tenure.
It’s going to be a bumpy ride.

I get what you’re saying, but almost 50% of Americans in reality did not vote for him.

Those, and a few who did actually vote for him, are worried and fuming.

He isnt putting American or Smericans first, he’s putting himself first and I genuinely don’t think he has the first clue about governing a country.

Cossy Thu 13-Mar-25 09:32:49

theworriedwell

The thing that struck me was that Martin played it so well. He was friendly, charming, corrected Trump and had Trump agreeing that Ireland had done the right thing. Of all the politicians we've seen meeting trump I think Martin was standout the best.

Like Starmer he is professional and staying calm and measured.

Cossy Thu 13-Mar-25 09:31:16

Barleyfields

He is completely mad. Power mad.

He is completely mad and like a very small child who cannot think before he speaks. He has no filter and in my opinion absolutely zero charm.

He plans nothing, makes mindless threats and then changes his mind every second.

He’s a loose canon and a danger to all!

Granniesunite Thu 13-Mar-25 09:28:26

I don’t think anyone or any country is surprise at Trumps behaviour at all.

We’re just seeing publicly their response to it.

Any Ukrainian people I’ve spoken to privately hoped for positivity but prepared themselves for the worst.

karmalady Thu 13-Mar-25 09:21:42

Trump has shaken many countries out of complacency, a good thing

Jane43 Thu 13-Mar-25 09:09:33

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Trump has always said it will be worse in the short term.
Voters were told this.
And still elected him. He does what he says he will.
Rare in a politician.

I think you are viewing Trump through rose tinted glasses.
Trump has broken 53% of the promises he made prior to election.
www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/?ruling=true

Granniesunite Thu 13-Mar-25 09:08:30

Yes Martin was very polite and respectful but got his point across . Which really highlighted the nonsense that Trump spouted mins before.

This man Trump behaves like a petulant two year old.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 13-Mar-25 09:06:22

The Irish Taoiseach has the power of the EU behind him. He can afford to be relaxed and unafraid at Trumps nonsense.

theworriedwell Thu 13-Mar-25 08:56:29

The thing that struck me was that Martin played it so well. He was friendly, charming, corrected Trump and had Trump agreeing that Ireland had done the right thing. Of all the politicians we've seen meeting trump I think Martin was standout the best.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 13-Mar-25 06:48:13

vegansrock

Some people thought Brexit would make us better off.

They also thought it would stop immigration

vegansrock Thu 13-Mar-25 06:05:12

Some people thought Brexit would make us better off.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 13-Mar-25 03:23:06

imaround

There is a reason, in my experience, why groups of people still admire Trump, even after seeing everything he has done to hurt people. It usually has nothing to do with the cost of groceries.

Yes, if only the cost of groceries was the only reason he gets support, but sadly thst is not the case.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 13-Mar-25 03:19:36

What a fool the man is, and what damage he is doing.

The EU was, as the whole world knows except Trump apparently, set up in order to help bring peace to Europe, and look how successful that has been!

It become the biggest most successful trading block in the world, and has brought prosperity to everyone of its members. Look how each and every member who has recently joined has increased its GDP to the benefit of its diverse populations.

As a result of this businesses are attracted to this huge market like bees to a honeypot, and large corporations set up branches of their companies within the EU in order to become part of this club. I know from family experience that when the U.K. left this club, the large pharmaceutical presence was much reduced, and skilled jobs lost to Europe, because they were in the U.K. in order to get access to the free market.

What is Trump going to do? Force them back? Why? What on Earth would that achieve, except loss of the biggest free market in the world.

Except of course he won’t, it is all nonsense, the pharmas know it and so does business as a whole. This daft period just has to be ridden out by the USA - much like we are riding out the result of Brexit. We will all eventually get back to normality. Meanwhile……… we will mitigate as much as we can along the way.

Wyllow3 Thu 13-Mar-25 00:59:41

For many of us here BlessedArt the telling moment in terms of character was when after bullying Zelensky, on the way out he turned and said "that will make good TV" 😡

BlessedArt Thu 13-Mar-25 00:55:29

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Oh I suppose time will tell.
America elected him to do this. Put America first. He’s looking after their interests.
Judge him after his tenure.
It’s going to be a bumpy ride.

He’s literally putting barriers to education and healthcare in front of millions of women and minorities. He is stripping millions of Americans of consumer and environmental protections. He’s not putting America first domestically or with this silly trade war. He’s putting those that look like him first. The American people are comprised of more than just the wealthy white males in his ear. Your position on this is dishonest and factually incorrect. His trade war is not one that he and his cronies will suffer. The Americans who can least afford to suffer the trade war will bear the burden. You and others of your ilk may find that admirable. I find it distasteful. I can and will judge his actions in real time based on the real time suffering he is inflicting. You don’t get to tell people they should wait to judge policies that needlessly cause others to suffer. This isn’t just some current events-based entertainment. Damage is being done right now.

BlessedArt Thu 13-Mar-25 00:45:25

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I don’t think Trump could end inflation on Day 1. I expect most voters took him to mean that ‘from Day 1’.
They know he has America’s interests paramount in his dealings.

This is what the youth call “moving the goal post”

imaround Wed 12-Mar-25 23:05:01

Smileless, he basically promised world peace on day 3. He wants a Nobel Peace Prize I have read.

Instead he pissed off almost every country in the world, and threatened Canada, Mexico, Greenland and Panama.

He embodies the anti-peace prize.

Wyllow3 Wed 12-Mar-25 22:53:19

What I don't really understand is that people who favour Trumps policies have to defend every aspect of his policies as a belief system

rather than a politician in action: why can they not say, "well, I support this aspect but not that aspect" as we do of politicians in our own country.

Smileless2012 Wed 12-Mar-25 22:45:00

Didn't he also say the war in Ukraine would be over in 3 days?

Casdon Wed 12-Mar-25 22:28:56

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I don’t think Trump could end inflation on Day 1. I expect most voters took him to mean that ‘from Day 1’.
They know he has America’s interests paramount in his dealings.

Come on now, that statement was pretty clear. What they would definitely not have expected was that inflation woukd start to rise, that their savings would decrease in value - or that they would lose their jobs.

Wyllow3 Wed 12-Mar-25 22:23:30

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Wyllow the EU are considering exactly that re drugs.
America relies on them heavily to make up their shortfall. Ursula von de Leyen is considering playing hardball.
No surprise really.
She tried it with the Covid jabs but changed her mind 48 hours later so she has form.

Trump started this dangerous game in February with a 25% proposal FGT

think.ing.com/snaps/trump-wto-tariffs-us-pharma/

Look at the danger to his own people he is prepared to enact.This cannot end well.

He should stop this now.

You cannot possibly defend this area when to moves into drugs for some of the most serious life threatening conditions.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 12-Mar-25 22:22:20

I don’t think Trump could end inflation on Day 1. I expect most voters took him to mean that ‘from Day 1’.
They know he has America’s interests paramount in his dealings.

Babs03 Wed 12-Mar-25 22:20:26

imaround

There is a reason, in my experience, why groups of people still admire Trump, even after seeing everything he has done to hurt people. It usually has nothing to do with the cost of groceries.

I agree imaround.

imaround Wed 12-Mar-25 22:18:53

There is a reason, in my experience, why groups of people still admire Trump, even after seeing everything he has done to hurt people. It usually has nothing to do with the cost of groceries.

Casdon Wed 12-Mar-25 22:18:19

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Trump has always said it will be worse in the short term.
Voters were told this.
And still elected him. He does what he says he will.
Rare in a politician.

Your memory is poor on this, because he certainly didn’t say that before he was elected.

‘Then-candidate Donald Trump, at a campaign rally last August as the 2024 race for the White House was heating up, made a promise to voters to quickly bring economic relief if elected.

"Starting on Day 1, we will end inflation and make America affordable again," he said at a rally in Montana, where he told supporters: "This election is about saving our economy."

A week later, he made a show of displaying cartons of eggs, bacon, milk and other grocery products outside his New Jersey golf course as he railed against the Biden’

From ABC News, but there are lots of other examples online too.